User:Emily/Thematic Project/Trimester 03/01
Brainstorming and Collective visual mapping
collective notions...
encyclopedia
keywords:
- archive, naming things,
modern notion:
- dataset --> neutral way of ordering
- the alphabetical ordering comes from Diderot & Jean le Rond d'Alembert, 18th century
- connected to the enlightment movement in France
- take the power from authorities and give the knowledge to the people
- 'god' is on the same level as 'plants'
before:
- encyclopedia's were authorized by the church or monarchy
- the encyclopedia was strongly structured in hierarchies(hierarchy of knowledge)
- also in the university: demons and angels were part of science
[film maybe watch later] prosperus?, a adaptation of Shakespeare's The Tempest from begin 1990s produced by Keith Griffins?
object
- drawing a line around things
- example: house & tree
keywords:
- possibility to name something?
- florian: is an object something concrete?
- solange: is there such a thing as a digital object?
- thomas: a digital object is an object within an object?
- i see a digital object as a concept.
- julie: object can be identified + isolated
- ruben: can anger be an object?
- maybe anger is a state?
- florian: object vs atribute?
- also object in grammer, also something not physical
- florian: maybe we can name a few area's where objects are used
- computers & programming
- fine art & sculpture
- grammer
- objectivication, example: commodity
- economics, a currency, an object of exchange
- media objects
- object of desire
- objection --> to disagree
- florian: you can question if the division between object/subject is something that is typically for our culture
- florian: example of Freud, when he talks about the 'it', the unconsious, a voice that is not a subject of control. This was first step of seeing the human being as being that is in control of itself.
- florian: making an object an subject --> if you can program humans, you can also program machines to act like human --> behaviorism
- florian: if you are a Marxist --> humans are objectivied in all ways
- classical materialism --> you can turn everything into a commodity. That's why Marxism calls itself as materialism.
- florian: the word "object" is present in all native languages here? It's a latin word.
- yuzhen: in chinese 'object' means object, but also 'east' and 'west'东西(物件)
- also because it's used to name a group of things
- more used in the context of commodities
- there is a word for 'subject' but this word is different, although the second part of the word sounds the same (主体,客体) (主观,客观)
- julie: 'object' & being subject of something
- florian: Latin -->
- ob = against
- jakere = to throw something
- so, objection is literally: i throw something towards you
- florian: subject and object have a mutual relation
- the definition of 'object' is subjective
- joana: is the opposite of 'object' maybe 'nothingness'
- manetta: what about a 'hole' then for example, can you call that an object?
- joana: it's only present as a negative of something that is positive
- ruben: deep learning and learning concepts
- florian: what about the word 'modeling'
- related to AI, you can't have a machine understanding a human, without having the computer understanding a bit of the world
- ruben: in deep learning it does not need to understand that on before hand, but it learns it along the way
- florian: we make links to physical experiences. What about imaginary objects?
- benjamin li: if someone passes away, that person is still there for me. I wrote down: translation from thoughts to matter. Then ruben said it could be also turned around: matter to thoughts.
- florian: what about fairytails? example: piece of clothing that has magical properties. Would we say that these are not objects at all?
- somehow maybe it is related to something that has a name?
- which makes it possible to point at.
- florian: example of the heart, as a love symbol, maybe more present than the association to a physicial organ
- julie: are we looking for a proof of existence?
- benjamin li: because i can't think of an object that does not exist yet
- florian: what about the McGuffin(?) effect?
- thomas: example of briefcase in Pulp Fiction
- florian: object as empty signifier
- object defined through its use
- for joana:
- gerard richter, painter
- thomas ruff, photographer
- made blurred work
media
- florian: two uses of medium in art education:
- traditional use of medium in art schools: sound, wood, ceramics.
- from media studies: ... container
- ruben: statistical medium / average
- florian: in latin --> medium = middle
- cihad: medium format in photography
- 'medium' in native speaker english
- means of production, a middle to create something
- medium as container (?)
- ruben: the medium is in the middle between you and other party
- the mediator (also present in economics for example)
- yuzhen: medium is related to mass-media, and news-media
- florian: --> "the media"
- media studies:
- news media, the media
- piet zwart media:
- - not designing with media--> as in designing templates for example
- - but designing media...--> phylosophical approach and rethink media --> invent new ways for communication --> can also be not technical
- ruben: each medium is a technology
- florian: medium / media are words that are almost not used in non-european languages
- only appears after 1960s, after McLuhan
- something from cybernetics
- as the notion of 'environment' is media ecology
- other words are used for that: artistic material
- florian: weird situation that everybody acknowledge that it is important nowadays, but a lot of people found it hard to define
- what is the difference between a tool and a medium?
- example: language
- - is sound a medium?
- - is speech a medium?
- - is light a medium?
- there is no strict answer (!)
- what is the difference between a tool and a medium?
- example:
- from media studies perception:
- --> no not film is a medium, but celluloid is the medium
- from scientific perception:
- no not light is the medium, but particles that transmit the light
Reading List and assignment:
- What is an object
- Martin Heidegger, The Thing, 1935/1962 in: Fiona Candlin and Raiford Guins, The object Reader, Routledge, 2009, 113-123
- What is an a medium
- What is an encyclopedia