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Meetings with Ana Milić

• her reseach on post-yugoslav queer and migrant oral histories
• the things we've discussed in the interview
• resources she shared with me:

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Research questions

• What would be a queer Balkan history, what has been forcefully forgotten along the way?
• Which forgotten queer Balkan histories would help us imagine the future differently?
• How could one dig up what has already been there, queer and hiding in plain sight, to counter the narrative of queerness being something that is inherently Western?
• More broadly how can one counter homo nationalist queer narratives that posit the west as a the source of queerness and other country as a source of backwardness?
• What do a local queer culture and a queer vocabulary look like when they are not forcefully copy pasted from western queer pop culture?
• How has the conception of national identities influenced the attitude towards queer identities?
• How can (3d/immersive) fictioning from archival gaps and remains allow for new political imaginaries of queer futures?
• Šta se može uraditi kako bi se izašlo iz ćorsokaka koji pozicionira LGBT pitanja kao stvar evropejstva? I stoga kao pitanja tuđa lokalnom kontekstu? — translation: What can be done to get out of the one way street in which LGBT questions are considered a marker of Europeanness? And therefore other to a local context? — taken from an article from Post-yugoslav TRANS

Research Methods

Reading(s)

• comparative reading (texts and games predominantly)
• organising reading clubs (last block of rrc is dedicated to queer time, community and liberation, as well as addressing homonationalism and pinkwashing genocide)

Making Research

• prototyping small games and unstable archives
• testing prototypes

Conversation-based

• conversations / interviews
• imagining exercises / collective narrative building

Scavanger method

• post a definition here

3D explorations

Liminality
Previous readings that posit the Balkans as a place that could not self identify, but is liminal because it was identified by larger global forces.
Pool

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  Liminal pool final render

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  rendered in eeve instead of cycles (which takes ages but it's really good)

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  Some errors along the way

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  Unfinished render in cycles

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  First render

I wanted to get a bit better at making scenes (lighting, textures, etc) so I modeled and rendered a pool.
I followed this tutorial by intranet whom I love >>>[1]
Airport

Pioner dool

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Printers

Receipt Printer

Manetta told me the ink from receipt printers is toxic, to the point that some cashiers in certain countries wear gloves when they handle them.
Could be an interesting thing to play with.

Games

With Alessia, Thijs, Victor, Lorenzo and Bernadette we have a little group for meeting up, talking about, sharing and playing games. This is the pad > https://pad.xpub.nl/p/games

Text Adventures, Choose your own adventures, Non-linear storymaking

Special page for this > [2]

Godot

Alessia and I made a page dedicated to learning Godot and sharing what we've found> [3]

The history

So far I've looked into:

Ottoman empire times

Virdžine
Lali Rapiki
Not the source I was looking for but it will have to act as a placeholder for now >> [[4]]
Additional [[5]]

Film Virdžina
[[6]]

Yugoslavia

Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes (1929–1941)
Things I've found:
An article describing the journey of a young person in search of a sex reassignment surgery. There have been speculations that this person is trans or intersex [Senka provide citation].
Link to source > [[7]]

One of the videos of the Eye Filmmuseum archive’s publicly accessible Youtube collection became the digging ground for a case study due to it’s unfolding comment section about the past and present political imaginaries. It’s a 1920s video of ‘peripheral’ Europe, more specifically the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, which encompasses the modern territories of Slovenia, Croatia, Montenegro and Serbia. This film was recorded from a Dutch lens of the perceived oriental Balkans and the act of sharing it four years ago on Youtube caused an avalanche of debates about the political, cultural and social predicament of the region. Many commentators didn’t resist the urge to read into the archival footage, read the lips of the silent film actors, ascribe intent, and correct perceived wrongs in how the land was described. While some went as far as to imagine collectively—in the margins of the comment section—what the people did once the camera was off, or they had walked out of the frame. Due to this we had to investigate this video as a site of how knowledge is produced in the margins of the archive.
Link to source > [[8]]

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Socialist republic
Sandžak Partisan
[to explain and cite]

Josip Mardešić
[to explain and cite]

Link to resource> [[9]]
Dispersal
Being gay being criminalized but transness not. The different times that homosexuality was decriminalized in the Balkans.

Queers joining anti war activist and letting queer rights take a back seat for now [cite!]

The trans woman from Kosovo that moved to Ljubljana [cite!!]

Merlinka
Film Dupe od mramora, in English Marble Ass

Songs
Queer songs from the yugo times: [[10]]

Post-yugo time

Srbija
Song:
Senidah — Slađana

Nil mentioning his HRT costing only 50 cents.

Zoran Đinđić's assassination

Mile VS Tranzicija (economic transition, the stereotype of being a педер: eating vegetables, piercing an earing and becoming a педер)

My own passport photo from 2015 and continually being stopped at the airport because "I don't look like my passport photo/ This is not my passport/ me etc"

Nil's experince of people using the formal you as to not gender him or rather misgender him.

People thinking queerness is inherently Western [cite!]

My own experience of talking using an archaic tense (aorist) to avoid gendering the verbs. The implication of this are that I exist in this tense only for a short period of time in the past.

Who's to blame

So far I've found quite a bit which seems to be a layer upon layer of blame. During the ottoman empire, queer practices were seen as a violent ottoman legacy, that was enforced through rape and abduction. In the beginning stages of communist uprising, queerness was perceived as a sign of the bad influence of the bourgeoisie. As far as the pre-christian era, there is little to nothing to be found on this topic. Generally, records are scarce, and the Balkans was never a region preoccupied with record-keeping (unlike colonial powers).
So what now, when I've combed through, and mostly found violence and blame of larger forces for the existence of people who are everywhere around the world.
There is also something to be said about the fact that queer as an identity came way later, in the past it was often seen as a thing that happens, rather than a thing that you are, an identity..

Tangents

• liminality on deciding on a region

On Untranslatability

I think in (some) Slavic languages you just cannot write in the academic style or fashion of canonical queer theorists. Judith Butler writing gender is performative is something I cannot put in words in Serbian without it sounding like it was google translated (at the time of writing this, google translated is used as a synonym to mean poorly) but my friend Nat, to the question of how to address them since we do not have adequate pronouns for them in Serbo-Croatian, responds 'Дај шта даш' (literally "Give what you give", meaning give what you can afford to give) conveys a similar energy.
I'm really thinking along this idea that the guy from Slavs and Tatars voiced in one of their lectures (it might be tranliterated tease but I have to doable check). He explained that the reason Russia does not have notable philosophers is because the fiction writers are philosophers, they occupy many roles and embed them in fiction. And I think this is more broadly true of Slavic languages imho.

On Response-ability for archival narratives or lack there of

I'm going to archives as a place of difficulty, as a troubled place, as a site of the production of history, as a place where a different future could be imagined.
For queer Balkan people what does this mean? If the archives are mostly filled with absence in regards to them, or worse, with violence? What now? Do we trust this evidence, or do we trust the sanctity of our own communities?
Living in the west I feel like it is my responsibility to fight homonationalism, as this belligerent othering of non western cultures under the pretense of homophobia or transphobia.