User:Mirjam Dissel/collected notes

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17th of October 2011

keywords portfolio

  • mixing and matching
  • collaboration
  • provocation
  • nostalgia
  • reminiscence
  • individual experience
  • interpretations
  • what happens inside your brain (manipulation?)
  • reality vs.expectations/perception/lies
  • generative & computational meets old fashioned fuzzy feeling
  • contradictions


19 of October 2011, in class?

the forget book

dream analogy book

31st of October 2011, in class?

laurie anderson - dreampeace

salvador dali, what is his process of drawing to painting

rss sweater

translation and making things physically tangible. physicallity. dreams are so not that.

31st of October 2011, notes by Laura during presentation

Are you spending much time at dream analysis? Freud's book. Are you interested in the mechanism of dreams?
Interested in how do they're related to one another, also inside the dream.
Are you more interested in the content or the structure?
Not really, places are just place A and place B.
Do you think of working with images? Do you think of doing the reverse (such as from text -> to images)
Subjective patterns, and externalize them and make something completely different
interested in the mechanism of dreams, and how can that be translated into a machine
structure does have a certain pattern and interested in replicating it in some way
Life of Manuel Swedenborg, scientist 1800s, inventor- very rational life- at some point, his dreams started to influence his own behaviour, and his life became influenced by his dreams. He became a theologian, all of a sudden, claiming that god was talking to him, and angels, and stuff.

Inception.gif

martin housen? version of the helmet of angels.
also William Blake - stuff
If there's a moment in which you claim there's some reality in what you dream - in that moment it becomes interesting to the rest of us / and psychoanalysis retroengineers the claim to reality (an encrypted version of a part of your life you don't wish to know about


Amy says: 'waking life' movie, protagonist in lucid dream

14th of November 2011, group?

visual analogies to processes. retelling. fact that something is fragmentary, through conspiracy or reliving a trauma and trying to make sense of it.

susan hiller - dream mapping 1974

tedtalks lifelogging

tilburg textile museum


16th of November 2011 - with Steve

File:Steve 11-16-2011.ogg to make tangible something that is not there, something impossible to grasp. memories, sound to image (when you make it it's gone), catch the unseen/unheard. you can do it to a certain level, but you can't do it completely.


Ada, The Enchantress of Numbers: Poetical Science eBook by Betty Alexandra Toole, Ed.D.

emphasis in relation to dreams and draw!


Norbert wiener.jpg
M.I.T professor Norbert Wiener testing a device capable of converting speech sounds into patterns

May 1949, Professor Wiener sitting like a boss, showing his project researching tremors/parkinson. The steering of the cart is decided by the photo cells on the front.
Wiener May1949.jpeg

Wiener-lifep2.jpeg

Moth.gif Wiener-modelp2.jpeg

18th of November 2011, with Steve

File:Steve 11-30-2011.ogg

23rd of November 2011

Went to see Lucid Dreaming in Stedelijk Museum Schiedam - Annotate! + add pictures and movieclips I made
2011-11-23%2B15.18.47.jpg

29th of November 2011 - with Aymeric

File:Aymeric29thofnovember2011.ogg roland barthes - the third meaning http://thethirdmeaning.blogspot.com/2007/10/roland-barthes-third-meaning.html

daniel dennett - consciousness explained
part of the book explains how memory works - brain follows different models. orwellian model, etc.

hofstadter - i am a strange loop
mix of science, philosophy, what's the self, brain as a feedback machine, having input (very personal in comparison to dennett, which is scientific)

  • navigation
  • process of remembering
  • objects in dreams. machine that make new machines.

storytelling, navigational system

turn into creative methodology, highlight 3 points, make it look like i'm in control


30th of November 2011 - with Steve in class

File:Steve 11-30-2011.ogg clarify this area of research. focus is really pulling in. research into those area's: memory is created as we remember. i'm inventing as i'm trying to remember, in this way my mind is a translation machine from dreams to memory, creating something physical. through practice i'm finding these things out. key thing!

  • Look at Furtherfield, weaving blogs.

http://www.furtherfield.org/


how internal things can be articulated/translated/decoded. quinten for example does the opposite, he is interested how the external becomes internal. afterimage.


email janis about bibliography list about dreams.

to do:

  • fix bibliography
  • update proposal


7th of December 2011

  • who is going to be at the graduation proposal assesment?:

simon, renee aymeric, barend, steve
what will happen?: they will read proposals and talk about it (will it fly or not) then they will invite us in. you can bring stuff in to show if you like. they will tell us then if it needs more work or not. some people have to resubmit, it's more like clarification.
the whole thing is more like 'how we understand your graduation proposal'


  • Reading each others graduate proposals:

can you identify the research question can you identify the project why is is necessary how is it going to be made
In other words: what is the project how are they gonna do it ... (something else)

Daan's feedback on proposal:
the 'what' is good.

how it's going to be realized is less clear, maybe it's about the fase we're in.
are the objects going to be in the gallery? no they are prototypes.
need some time before it becomes clear.
it's evident that i need more time to see where it leads.

why is this project necessary. in previous projects it becomes quite clear, bringing people together, memory. this seems more personal. don't know exactly how this relates to collective memory.

-- Inge's feedback on proposal:
three outcomes, pretty clear to inge.
as soon as you go to what have i been doing, it becomes a complete mishmash. be more editorial.
take out the workshop with inge.
take out bulletpoints? (save somewhere else?, sum it up in sentences?)
reads like a form and sketch

Tim Burton -> documentary about his works
Steve:
I can do more analog stuff in the studio and put it all around you.


My feedback on Inge's proposal:
I think the flow of the proposal is very good. Your descriptions, your writings, links one subject seemlessly to another. I admire how in the first part of your proposal you've managed to articulate something so.. well vague actually, and make this feeling you have so universal and easy for me to relate to and understand.

Only between 'I'd like to tell you something I've been thinking about.' and 'Selection of recent work' there seems to be a bit of a jump. Not so much, but it stands out because of the cohesiveness of the rest of the writings.

what you are actually going to do might be a bit more descriptive, a bit more articulated, for dummies so to say. when reading it more thourougly I get what you want to do, but it's not immediately clear, I think it's also because at this stage you yourself don't have an exact idea of how the final project is going to look like. That's why you have a description of what you will do as a testing ground to further your thesis, so it falls into place. Although, after the very big introduction I'm still very curious about your next steps.


This really captures what you want to do: "I want to create an experiential environment or setting in which live performance and storytelling form bridges and gaps with online interactions. A sound sample is followed by a movement elsewhere in the space, with characters moving in between screens, perhaps set in motion by the audience moving between them. A space where that little bit of me connects to that little bit of you. A small, intimate, yet expansive space." But it kind of gets swallowed inbetween the words, I would like to see it stand out more in some way. Maybe just by visually giving it more emphasis, or by giving the block "The coming months, I want to [...]" a separate header, to underline the fact that we're getting into the part where you're talking about what you actually want to start working on.


17th of January 2012

Explore the idea of being lost in translation. Maybe it's not about what is left after the translation, but what is missing, the ungraspable. -
Is the machine dreaming? Desperately trying to tell us his (bad) dreams? (Driven by a different database everyday, or an updating dataset everyday, that is somehow related).