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Projects for factories

Andre: a factory for making collaborative songs (based on samples)

Questions

(think about you want to get across, the issues/questions you'd like to address)

Online collaborative sound/musical composition

what are the motivations to participate in collaborative sound works ?

what results might arise from such process?

how can such a system be devised?

what will bring users to participate?

what existing examples of collaborative music composition exist?

can it become something not serious?

copyright laws? - an advocation of plunderphonics?

A Sketch

could a song be created collectively, with unrestricted contributions?

could Distributed Control Version System be implemented in for music making?
A system that allows anyone to contribute, to submit his version, to resurrect previous version

To put a song in permanent construction.

wikipedia could be taken as model of such a collaborative effort; a collective intelligence

However in wikipedia there is a goal: to create the more accurate body of knowledge as possible.

What could be the goal of a collective musical construction??

compositions could be devised as games

Each one starting from a given sound material, a given set of rules, and an aim
(bringing a bit of humor as in Oulipo creations)

Example of a game/composition:

Material: the week's #1 hit song
Rules: users can only use material from that song; no effects should be used, only editing;
After that week/month the song is finished;
The various versions will be juxtaposed in chronological order
Distributed widely (where to?? is there anyway of submitting a song for the tops??)

Technology

we are thinking of using git to as the underlying structure managing version history

References:

Sonic Outlaws - FILM
mix tape culture books - tape of favorite songs
Variations series by Jon Leidecker
Aymeric - The sound of network topologies - http://su.kuri.mu/00000001/2011----THE.SOUND.OF.NETWORK.TOPOLOGIES/
- Notes:The Sound Of Network Topologies

Interfacing

how the projects could enter into a dialogue?

Dave - svn, git. What does he wants to head with it? What is his take
Eleanor - shared storage, maintenance

Each project has to think about 2 interfaces in other projects

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Other's projects

Eleanor: facebook censored from facebook

if you establish a social protocol that circunvent the restriction that allow a social experiment

pirco wireless code of conduct - for Eleanor project

Graphic scores and Git

Dave
Cornelious Cardew - The Great Learning - negative feedback built into it
the reproducibility and
the social idea between open scores
if open composition were tools for allowing non-musicians and trained musician to compose-play together
graphic scores and open composition

Cobra by John Zorn
Notations by Christian Marcley

CONCLUSION OF PROJECT PRESENTATIONS

ideas are medium specific

applying the factory paradigm to the medium which we are familiar with
the next step is to abstract from the media; what are the common lines between project

when they similar in their structure and their approach

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-* modes of culture production
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-==Andre: a factory for making songs based on sampling==
-===Questions===
 (think about you want to get across, the issues/questions you'd like to address)
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 * can it become something not serious?
-==Sketches==
+* copyright laws? - an advocation of plunderphonics?
-* Offer recipes for others to create sampling songs??
-** It could bring an insight into the compositional process (1 interesting aspect of Oulipo))
-** Could have the same humor as Oulipo creations?
-* the power relation of such creation: A system deviser and executer. I am still the author, and although results might be extremely varied it would be a shared authorship (as in a Christian Wolff open composition, he still the author)
+==A Sketch==
-* Oulipo - was a peer group that created the works; there was no blurring of reader-writer position; the more interesting aspect (for my project) might be the playful, game strategies, and use of constrains for the creation
 * could a song be created collectively, with unrestricted contributions?
-* could something like a svn system be devised for music making? go back on the process, resurrect old fragments -> a song in constant construction
-** what are the (possible) rules of this composition:
-*** a) only found sounds;
-*** b) maximum sound duration;
-*** c) DO A NUMBER 1 HIT
-* a perverse twist:
+* could Distributed Control Version System be implemented in for music making? <br/>
-** something like google eats itself';
+* A system that allows anyone to contribute, to submit his version, to resurrect previous version <br/>
-** each new song could apply for the charts - something plays with the industry; the appropriation of copy-righted material, but to such a degree that makes impossible to sue due the large amount of sources
+To put a song in permanent construction. <br/>
+* wikipedia could be taken as model of such a collaborative effort; a collective intelligence
+However in wikipedia there is a goal: to create the more accurate body of knowledge as possible.
-A project that motivates people to participate
+<b>What could be  the goal of a collective musical construction??</b>
-what i want address with it?
+* compositions could be devised as games
-* copyright laws?
+Each one starting from a given sound material, a given set of rules, and an aim<br/>
-* collective collaboration
+(bringing a bit of humor as in Oulipo creations)
-* an advocation of plunderphonics?
+====<b>Example of a game/composition:</b>====
+* Material: the week's #1 hit song
+* Rules: users can only use material from that song; no effects should be used, only editing;
+* After that week/month the song is finished;
+* The various versions will be juxtaposed in chronological order
+* Distributed widely (where to?? is there anyway of submitting a song for the tops??)
-(the art work that struggles with its own formula)
+===Technology===
+we are thinking of using git to as the underlying structure managing version history
 ===References:===
 * Sonic Outlaws - FILM
-* KLF - The Manual - how to make a number one the easy way
+* mix tape culture books - tape of favorite songs
-mix tape culture books - tape of favorite songs
+* [http://rwm.macba.cat/en/curatorial/variations1_jon_leidecker/capsula Variations series by Jon Leidecker]
 * Aymeric - The sound of network topologies -  http://su.kuri.mu/00000001/2011----THE.SOUND.OF.NETWORK.TOPOLOGIES/
 ** [[User:Andre_Castro/Factory/1.3/Notes-theSoundOfNetworkTopologies | Notes:The Sound Of Network Topologies]]
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 * Notations by Christian Marcley
-===Petra===
-* design integral to a work system
-* this can be a meta-system for
-* your are trying to create a mourning site, or something that is pushing it forward - thinking of how I position myself as graphic designer in the present and future
-* the post-industrial
-* think of it of as publishing industry that is happening now
-* what is missing from graphic design is a critical reflection on the printing material now-a-days
-* in the contemporary graphic design do we have a counter-culture arts and craft movement (William Morris) ?
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 ===CONCLUSION OF PROJECT PRESENTATIONS===
 ideas are medium specific

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