User:Karina/thesis
29 DEC
Experiment: dancing where it all started
Joined the Frim Fram Jam in Manhattan
As Swing originated in Harlem, and so many of the finest Swing dancers come from America, I wanted to find out what it’ll be like to join a social in New York City. What differs from back home? What stays the same? Is the culture any different? Are they all way better dancers? Will it be clear I’m an outsider in the community? After a quick search, I found a website of the NY Swing community with a list of all upcoming events. Some locations, like Jazz 41(?), sounded fun in the description on Facebook, but after googling it, it seemed as if not many people go there, and the crowd is quite a bit older. The name ‘YSBD’ popped up a few times on people’s comments on Facebook, so I decided to look that up. It’s a dance school ‘You Should Be Dancing’. Thanks to the magic of Facebook I found out that Adam Brozowski liked that page and checked in that location. That was a good enough sign for me - ready to party.
The event was at the dance school itself. At first it did’t excite me too much, until I remembered that the Swing community rents out a room and has socials at Cuartito Azul, a tango dance school, once a month. Those socials are always so cozy, that if it would be similar, I shouldn't worry that it would feel like dancing in a practice studio - full lights on, mirrors everywhere, no cosy vibe, just gym.
Upon arrival I was very excited. I couldn’t believe that I was actually going to dance with some locals. The vibe in the room seemed a little calm - there weren’t many people there - but I had a feeling it would get busy and warm up. I paid my $7 entrance fee, changed out of my layer-upon-layer winter survival kit and said hello to the first person sitting next to me. My aim there wasn’t only to dance, but also to get to know the community, their their individual stories, to get a grasp of how this community may differ from (my own) the one in Rotterdam. Dennis is a sweet, elderly, black American man that seemed like dancing was his second nature. In Holland, when getting to know new people, the first two things that are exchanged are names and dancing experience. I was too afraid to ask Dennis about his dancing background, as I was afraid his answer could possibly be the obvious one - he got brought up with it. He did seem more in his 60s or early 70s though, so from hindsight he definitely live during the birth of Swing. He introduced me a little to the local culture and how men are the ones who usually ask for the dance. In Holland it really is a 50/50. I asked him whether he knew many people in the room, as I really felt like an outsider at that moment, and he said that he recognises many, but doesn't interact with them outside the socials. That sounds about the same in Holland, although we did recently create a small group of about five to ten people I spend time with outside of classes and socials. Before sharing a dance or two with Dennis I was a little afraid of my (lack of) skill compared to his, but we had a good time. There was a good connection, we smiled and sometimes laughed throughout. Simple, but sweet. I thanked him and straight away got asked by someone else for a dance.
This man’s name shall be ‘Young Michael Jackson’ as I forgot his actual name, and later that night we had a small inside joke how many people think he really resembles Michael. His posture and body connection caught my eye straight away the moment we got into ‘formation’ to start dancing. I thought maybe it’s a local thing, maybe he will surpass me with something crazy, have we been doing it wrong all along in Holland? Not really, turns out he’s a beginner. Just before the social he had a one hour workshop in Lindy Hop and that’s all. I was impressed with how much he already picked up within an hour. He knew two or three simple steps, but he did them fairly well. Sometimes he would mess up his rhythm and we would take a short break of a few counts, and get back into it. I don’t mind dancing with beginners - it makes me focus on the basics and not take the easy steps for granted. He asked about my experience and whether I could teach him some other move. I thought deeply about which one wouldn't be too difficult to learn, nor to teach, and a move that would come in handy for him. Tuck-turn it is! It took us a few trials to get it right, but by the end of the song he was ready. We practised it for another song, mixing it with other steps he already knew.
I took a short break and sat down on the benches on the side for a moment. Immediately I introduced myself to the lady next to me. Jodi and I clicked right away. She told me about her twenty year dance experience and how she tried it all. She recommended I look into ‘Samba de Gafiera’. It’s meant to be a fun mix between Swing and Latin - the two dance styles I love the most! After going to get a Cola from the small bar that was in the room I asked Jodi whether people drink alcohol at these, or any other Swing events. She told me how venues would cancel Swing socials just because it wasn’t profitable for them, as many just drink water. I burst with excitement (?) explaining how it is just the same in Holland. At that moment, when glancing around the room, it hit me - the atmosphere / the vibe, the culture, it’s just the same back home. Isn’t it incredible that across the world a community can feel just the same? “It’s because we’re all speaking the same language” Jodi said, “the language of dance”.
I danced with a few more people that night, don’t remember all the names though. (Broad shoulder man in red shirt) was a great dancer, he was a good lead who listened and let me improvise, we shared a laugh here and there, overall good dance. (Older white man) who only came to socials, doesn’t take classes, was a good dancer, but we didn’t have a connection. (Asian man) and I had no connection, possibly because he had a repetoir of three to four moves, only spins, I got dizzy. I danced with a very good dancer from London who came to New York for business. He came to the social to have some fun between working. He, just like me, searched and found a Swing social online. He really put in his heart and soul in his steps. Just like Christina … said, “you need to be committed to every step”. He did, and that’s why he looked, and is a great dancer. Best connection was with Art (short with glasses) and Thomas (very tall) - we just had a good time. Good connection, easy to listen and respond to one another.
Olivia caught my eye earlier that night. She looked like she was floating on a cloud, always with a big smile on her face. Whoever she danced with, she was present and enjoying every moment. I managed to talk to her by the end of the night. She told me that she comes down to NY to visit her family a few times a year. She said that the vibe of the communities is the same anywhere she goes. There were two things I realised were clearly different between the two communities: fashion and music. In Holland people put a tiny bit of effort to dress up for socials, whether a shirt and nice pants, a dress or 40s styled skirt. That night in Manhattan people mostly wore casual wear. Maybe it was due to the weather, or it wasn’t part of their culture. With regards to music, in Holland there is a lot more classics, such as Count Basie, Benny Goodman and Duke Ellington, whereas during this social in Manhattan the music was slightly more rock n’ roll or slightly more country. I hardly recognised any of the songs. The only music we shared a dancing passion for was some sweet Ella Fitzgerald.
I was already slowly preparing to leave, and there was an announcement about upcoming workshops and I heard someone shout “birthday circle”. I was happily shocked to find out that not only the concept, but even the term is the same as back home. A birthday circle is when the birthday boy / girl dances in the middle and people around them try to steel a dance from them. Suddenly one of the leads I danced with earlier asked me to come to the middle of the circle too. I didn't understand what was going on. Turns out that they also get anyone visiting to join in the circle too. There was a woman from Spain and another from Israel that joined in too. It was a sweet addition to the tradition that I know. I will share it with the Dutch community.
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27 DEC
for thesis text - probably intro
- Why do we archive?
- Examples of notation systems throughout history
- Medieval family tree manuscripts in church documents? To keep track of goods?
- Paintings of royalty, battles of still life (showing wealth, power and trade)
- Beginning of photography - archive family members and the dead (cheaper, faster and more accessible than paintings)
- Development of photography during WW1 - documenting politics, not artistic medium
- Nowadays Instagram - for us to hoard / share memories
- Aims of archiving
- The need to pass down knowledge
- To document something important (culture / history / politics)
- Why / how did some information (language / culture) succeed / fail being documented?
- Human-to-human (mouth-to-mouth?)
- Successful: for the masses, even for the illiterate, it’s quick, no materials needed, can be altered throughout history (political perspectives change)
- Not so successful: smaller access, needs time to record, needs a medium / material, can change accidentally (Chinese whispers) or on purpose (to gain political power? to change history), information alters depending who passes it down (bias)
- Examples of notation systems throughout history
Archive systems throughout history / around the world
Chinese Ancestor: Zupu 族谱 - genealogy book
Chinese Family History: Chinese Clan & Family Histories
"Although many family genealogy books dating from the 9th to 13th centuries to modern times were destroyed during the Cultural Revolution, families may have handwritten or printed copies either in the ancestral village or brought with them to the United States. The village birthplace and burial site for each male relative may be listed. The books trace the male lineage from the first progenitor to the present. Wives and sometimes daughters were listed, but matriarchal lines were not usually traced."
26 DEC
Quotes that could be used within thesis
Anyone from the Whitney Lindy Hoppers would be great
horribly old websites about Whitney Lindy Hoppers here and here
most popular dancers
- Leon James
- Dorothy "Dot" Johnson
- Frankie Manning
- Norma Miller
- Al Minns
- Short George Snowden
Related to connection and non-verbal communication
- "When you are dancing with your partner, for that two and a half minutes, you are in love with each other. You're corresponding with each other by the moves that you make. It's a love affair, between you and your partner and the music. You feel the music, you feel your partner, she feels you and she feels the music. So there the three of you are together. You've got a triangle, you know. Which one do you love best?" - Frankie Manning from AZ quotes
Related to culture passed down in Swing
- "Music played a large role in the survival of the black people in America — that and a sense of humor that just couldn't be enslaved." - The Redd Foxx Encyclopedia of Black Humor (1977) (co-written with Norma Miller)
Short George Snowden coins the name Lindy Hop
Great Frankie Manning quotes / timeline from Toronto Lindy Hop Blog
Explaining the reason why people danced / the culture / background of the Savoy ballroom
- “If you loved music and you loved dancing, the Savoy was the place to go. At the Renaissance, going to the Savoy was our one ambition because they had the best bands and the best dancers. It had been on our minds for a year or two, but we were afraid to venture there because we put the Savoy on a pedestal. Nobody but the greatest dancers went, or at least those who thought they were.
- The entrance of the Savoy was at street level. You went down one flight to check your coat, then you walked back up two flights to the ballroom, which was on the second floor. As I was climbing the steps that led to the ballroom, I could hear this swinging music coming down the stairwell, and it started seeping right into my body….
- The Savoy was the ballroom because it had the best orchestras, and from that they got the best dancers. Even though a lot of people went to ballrooms just to listen to the music, back then bands played for dancers. After all, they were called dance bands.
- These were the depression years (which didn’t make that much difference to my family since we were poor anyway) and dancing was an outlet for people because there wasn’t much else they could do. We all stayed in Harlem, but you could find someplace to step out every night of the week. Going to a ballroom became our social life.
- Even though we were poor, we always dressed up. People in Harlem felt that they’d get more respect if they dressed well. Guys felt that the better they looked, the more likely a young lady would be to dance with them. I only owned two suits, but I always wore them with a shirt and tie and nice shoes, not two-tones, just black or brown ones. This was the fashion, and everybody dressed that way.” - Frankie Manning
Musicality / body being the instrument / music being blueprint for dancing
- "I said, “Okay, Frieda, I’m ready,” and we swung out. I flung that girl so far across the floor that we almost took up the whole ballroom! This was one time when we really danced to the music, and it seemed like the band was catching everything that we were doing…Yeah, keep up with me, guys! I was feeling everything that they were doing, and the band was hitting every step that we did… Everything was going so right that even the crowd was rocking with us.
- It was coming down to the end of our turn, so I said, “You ready to do the step?” “Yeah, let’s do it.” That’s exactly what she said. I remember it as if I was there right now. I swung her out and did a jump turn over her head while Chick said, “SHUUMMP!” Then I jumped so we were back to back and flipped her. While she was going over, he played “CHI- CHI- CHI- CHI- CHI- CHI-CHOO.” And when she hit the floor right on the beat… “BOOMP!”
- The crowd had been clapping in time with the music and yelling, “Go Musclehead!” (my nickname), but when Frieda landed, for one second, it seemed like everyone in the audience caught their beat. Their mouths opened, but no sound came out. It was as if people weren’t sure they had really seen what they’d seen, like they were trying to figure out what we had just done. They were awestruck. Then all of a sudden, the house erupted! Everyone jumped up and started stomping, clapping, hollering, and grabbing each other saying, “Did you see that?” “What the heck did he just do?” “He threw that girl over his head!” Folks were just carrying on. It was turmoil!" - Frankie Manning
Keep in mind that Frankie was a great story teller. There was a dispute between him and Al & Leon on who invented the first airsteps. Read more here
- "The next we hear of Al, it’s the 1960s, and he’s teamed up with his good friend and fellow Whitey’s Lindy Hopper Leon James to help historian Marshall Stearns, a jazz historian with a pretty wicked pencil-mustache who’s researching jazz dance for a book he’s writing. Now, here is where things have gotten messy. According to Frankie Manning’s biography, Al and Leon told Stearns inaccurate recollections of what life was like at the ballroom, even including giving the wrong credit for whom invented the first aerial. According to Frankie, Leon wasn’t present when Frankie invented the first aerial, and Al wasn’t even dancing yet. In his book, Frankie talks about how he confronted Al about how he wasn’t even there when the first aerials were invented, and Al said “Man, I just made it sound exciting.” About all of this, Frankie was apparently not offended, just surprised. He figured a lot of those stories were thrown around and exaggerated (Which, to be fair, is very much the tradition of Jazz. We need to remember that Frankie himself was a master story-teller, and should not necessarily be expected to give 100% accurate retelling of historical events.)"
Learning from the original, but was there even 'an original'?
- "Many of the dancers developed specialties to distinguish themselves and wow the crowd. As Dawn Hampton, my good friend and one of my favourite dance partners today, likes to point out, “All of the Lindy Hoppers at the Savoy had their own individual style. It’s not like everyone was going to class and learning someone else’s way of dancing.” A lot of the girls came up with their own way of swinging out. Some would back away from their partner; others would go out facing away from him, then flip around – whatever fit their fancy. No one ever told them they weren’t doing Lindy just because their swing-out was different." - Frankie Manning
Life after the 40s. Quotes from 1955.
- "I kept things going with the Congaroos for a while, but the work wasn’t too steady, and things really started to slow down…” - Frankie Manning
- "Working at the post office was difficult at times because I missed being in show business, but I did all right because I was busy raising a family…" - Frankie Manning
almost 30 years break
- 1983 - A get together of about thirty Savoy Lindy Hoppers takes place at the Sandra Cameron Dance Studio.
- 1984 - Smalls’ Paradise in Harlem begins holding swing dances on Monday nights.
- 1985 - New York Swing Dance Society holds first “Savoy Sunday” big band dance at Cat Club in New York City.
- 1986 - Frankie begins teaching career by agreeing to work with Erin Stevens and Steven Mitchell.
- "As I had agreed, I watched them [Erin & Steven) swing out, and right away I could see that these two had soul. As I watched them, I thought, Maybe I can help them get a little better." - Frankie Manning
- 1987 - First travels to Sweden to work with Rhythm Hot Shots.
- 1992 - Serves as consultant/performer in Spike Lee’s film Malcolm X.
- 1992 - Serves as assistant choreographer/performer with Norma Miller in Debbie Allen’s Stompin’ at the Savoy.
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Important corrections / tips for thesis
- Savoy Ballroom closes in 1958
- "Minns also played a part in the revival of Lindy Hop in the 1980s, when he was invited to Stockholm in 1984 by The Rhythm Hot Shots dance company to teach the dance the way he knew it. The group had until then mainly used old film clips as a source for their interpretation of Lindy Hop." - from wikipedia
Books worth looking into
- Jazz Dance: The Story Of American Vernacular Dance (1994) by Marshall Stearns and Jean Sterns
- Swingin' at the Savoy (2001) by Norma Miller
- Frankie Manning: Ambassador of Lindy Hop (2008) by Frankie Manning
- The Intimate Act of Choreography (1982) by Lynne Anne Blom and L. Tarin Chaplin
"A comprehensive book that covers all aspects of choreography from the most fundamental techniques to highly sophisticated artistic concerns. The Intimate Act of Choreography presents the what and how of choreography in a workable format that begins with basics- - time, space, force -- and moves on to the more complex issues faced by the intermediate and advanced choreographer -- form, style, abstraction, compositional structures, and choreographic devices."
24 DEC
working on intro for thesis
- Film / video is not enough to document dance, difficult to learn from it
- Video only good from the perspective of an audience, not dancer
- Swing almost died out, although there are videos of dancers
- Frankie Manning and Norma Miller brought it back in 1990s
- Swing Kids movie and Gap commercial followed
- Need personal connection / contact
- Passing knowledge person-to-person
- Today we can search 'Frankie' on YouTube and get plenty of content. 20-30 years ago you needed to know people who had tapes and make copies
- Quotes from dancers that got taught personally by either Frankie Manning or Norma Miller
- (hopefully a quote about notation)
As apposed to what seems to be the most obvious answer, video is not a great means to document dance. It commonly is filmed from the audiences’ perspective and fails to capture what the dancers themselves are experiencing. It is not an easy tool to learn from either. When watching (steps / choreography / routine / movement), the video needs to be paused and replayed in short clips numerous times in order to process the information and copy it.
When looking back at the purpose of archiving, one example of information revival comes to mind. Swing dancing began in Harlem in the late 1920s, reaching its peak in the 30s and 40s. It was a way for people to escape the thought of war and let loose, socialise and laugh. With time, politics, social tension and financial instability started calming down, therefore people focused on work, family and rebuilding the economy. There was less time for dancing in ballrooms in the evenings, and Swing died out. It also evolved into other dance styles, such as rock and roll and hip hop.
In the 1990s there were two main people, Frankie Manning and Norma Miller, who were famous Swing dancers during its craze, who started sharing the joy of Swing to the youth despite their age. Quickly it spread to pop culture: a movie called Swing Kids (1993) and an iconic Gap commercial (1998). They travelled the world and taught the steps and culture, passing the knowledge person-to-person. The ones that mastered it went on to becoming teachers themselves. It makes you wonder, did we need that personal connection and contact, or could have we managed, and would have we succeeded if we self-taught ourselves from archived videos? It also would have depended how technology could have aided us with it. Today we can search 'Frankie' on YouTube and get plenty of content to copy and try to learn from. Twenty to thirty years ago, when Swing started its comeback, you needed to know people who had tapes and make copies. Did the fact that access and distribution was limited made people more committed and excited? (not just a quick internet trend like we see today)
19 DEC
done
- went to 2 weekend workshops with Alex and Christina (Swing professionals / international teachers)
- turns out they have a refreshing take on muscle memory and not using video to create recaps
- asked them whether they would like to share their thoughts on archiving dance
- contacted Alex and Christina through their Facebook page
to do
- go over Earanee's interview - which questions can I still use for Alex and Christina, what else can I tailor?
- transcribe Earanee's interview
little St. Louis Shag treat: Nevermore Jazz Ball 2015 St. Louis Shag Finals
Kerry Kapaku and David Deenik gave me the chills
more more more
YouTube: Lindyfest 2017 - Advanced Jack & Jill Finals
Look at the connection between the dance partners! Jack and Jill competitions are when parters are selected at random, so you dance with a stranger. How amazing is it that most of these pairs look so comfortable / at ease with one another? Surprising that Kerry Kapaku and David Deenik are dancing together at this competition though.
17 DEC
'St. Louis Shag' workshop with Alex and Christina
The twist - we only know one step because that's the only one documented. The rest is gone / lost
YouTube: St.Louis Shag dancers & The Schwings Band feat. Migloko
16 DEC
'Blue & above' workshop with Alex and Christina
conclusion of workshop
- don't be a piece of furniture
- personal note: they use a lot of metaphors to help explain moves / connection / intention
9 DEC
Conclusions from last night's workshop
- I didn't manage to get it documented during the class - Karolina had trouble getting there because of the snow, and I didn't ask anyone else to help. Bummer.
- (Spanish dancer) "It was fun! I learned something new, so it was successful"
- (Rianna, tall Dutch girl) Didn't notice we taught for the first time. We gave people attention. Scanned the room, see who needs help and gave private feedback
- (Spanish dancer) Exercise with closed eyes was really good
- (Personal thought) Teaching for an hour more tiring than being taught for an hour
- Rianna wanted to sign up for more classes at Swing in Rhythm dance school - she asked me where she can sign up. She was previously interested in Swing. She restores old documents
Have a listen to the rest of the podcast, plus transcribe whatever is relevant - Jason talks about Flow states 29:50 onwards
Chase Jarvis: Transform Your Consciousness W/ Jason Silva
8 DEC
I will ask Karolina, another dancer whether she could take notes during our teaching session. This way I could take my own notes to document the class, but I could also have someone else's perspective - maybe more detail?
Floris and I made a schedule for our workshop.
Made some changes to previous concept
- still 'basic step' and 'change of place'
- got rid of 'tuck-turns'
- added small steps to connect 'basic step' and 'change of place'
7 DEC
Top aims for tomorrow's class:
- if we manage to teach people the rhythm used in Lindy Hop
- we manage to adapt the teaching / course level to the participants without much trouble
- Floris and I work well as a team
6 DEC
Conclusion after meeting with Marloes:
document workshop at Poortgebouw on 8th Dec
- it can be another experiment
- helped out individuals, but never taught a class
- never taught with Floris, need to understand each other, be in sync while teaching
- make list of tests (scatting, leading..)
- ask what else can substitute words "rock step triple step"
5 DEC
Mentioned to one of my dance teachers that I will be giving a beginners Lindy workshop in a few days.
He was curious what we will teach, how and what will we focus on
I explained how Floris and I will teach only 6-count steps - instead of the ones with an 8-count - to simplify it for beginners.
The rhythm is something I find very important to master at the beginning. That's my biggest focus / aim. The rhythm gets too long if they need to memorise 8, not 6, counts of a rhythm. The basic steps also use the shorter steps, so we will only show those:
- basic step
- change of place
- possibly tuck-turn? - depending how advanced the group is
He said that from his experience, tuck-turns are too difficult, and that we should even simplify the rhythm even more. Instead of triple-steps, we should teach groove-walks.
'rock-step-triple-step-triple-step' v.s. 'rock-step-step-step' (the last 2 'steps' are slow)
It's a slower version of it that requires less footwork.
After talking it over with Floris, we decided to keep to our plan and do the triple-steps. We have our own experience of signing up for beginner workshops and get taught something so different to the actual dance, that it's a disappointment if you find out what you got taught is not the real thing, but a simplified version.
23 NOV
Facebook: Jason Silva on Flow healing anxiety
22 NOV
interview questions
Sole reason of project is to find to what extent we can archive dance
I’m collecting different forms of media from different perspectives (psychologists, dancers - advanced & beginners)
Would it be alright if I could document this conversation - both audio and video?
A little introduction (name + profession)
- When did you start dancing?
- Have you tried (still currently dancing) other dance styles?
- What makes social dancing / swing so special to you?
I'm looking at dance as an intangible experience. Difficult to quantify, difficult to capture as a whole
- There are videos of you dancing. Do you think it depicts your experience well? What is it missing (most)?
- If you could invent a machine that could capture something particular about dance, what would it be?
Looked at different dance notation systems
Laban (direction, body part, duration, intention)
Dance mats (location of footsteps and order)
- What element do you think is most crucial when learning a new dance (style)? - rhythm, atmosphere, spacial awareness?
Collecting dancers methods to capture dance (notes, videos, drawings)
- What techniques do you use to memorise or learn steps?
- Do you share these methods with your students? Do you encourage them to form their own methods?
- Are there any examples of techniques that are most effective, among students?
- Recap videos?
One of my favourite moments while dancing are non-verbal jokes. Falling into flow, everything makes sense
- What makes this chemistry work or not work? (personal chemistry, rhythm, amount of effort from partner?)
- What is a specific thing you look for in a parter?
- What's the best trait of your favourite dance partner?
- What makes a connection delightful?
I’m focusing on swing, great example of urgency of passing down knowledge, and capturing dance - as it almost died out.
All thankful for Norma Miller, Frankie Manning time, will and enthusiasm
- Do you think Swing would have made a comeback without them? Was it inevitable?
- What would you have liked to ask Frankie or still ask Norma?
- How do you think Frankie or Norma would have answered the question of ‘to what extent can we archive dance’?
- How about experience of dance?
- What would you answer?
Final swing outs (no right or wrong, quick replies)
- Favourite song?
- Best dance memory?
- Where is your dream place to perform?
- Favourite dance partner?
- 40 or 250 BPM?
- Best performance you’ve seen?
- Favourite dance shoes?
- Most comfortable dance shoes?
- Which country has the best dancers?
- Signature step?
video recommendations from Earanee
Youtube: Dawn Hampton in Herrang 1990s
Youtube: Dawn Hampton and Emily Smyth Vartanian Encore
Youtube: Swing Dance 1980's (Frankie Manning & Norma Miller)
Youtube: Frankie Manning and Dawn Hampton :: Lindyfest 2008
21 NOV
Earanee winning 3rd place in ihlc 2016 jack jill finals
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_notation
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnochoreology
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scat_singing
https://www.scoreexchange.com/scores/100422.html
18 NOV
contact Norma Miller here
16 NOV
Questions for Adam and Earanee
mention transition of information before YouTube
- do you think we can archive the experience of dance? - first & last question?
- do you have a personal method / system to capture dance? to memorise dance?
- what element do you think is most crucial when learning a new dance (style)? - rhythm, atmosphere, spacial awareness?
- what did Frankie think was most important in dance?
- what was his most common feedback?
- what did he pay most attention to?
- do you have any material of sessions with Frankie?
- Earanee, what would you have liked to ask Frankie of Norma?
- how do you think Frankie or Norma would have answered this question? (can we archive dance?)
- do you think I could even get a hold of Norma?
- found a page on Facebook. Hard to tell if it's someone else writing for her (sometimes written in first person, sometimes third), not fan page though
- "Norma Miller is available for hire/travel, but serious inquires only!"
- white pages? - 31 results for in NY, she lives in Los Vegas?
- watch documentaries with her in them to get quotes - list available on wikipedia
- why does music have a universal (accepted) score system, and dance doesn't?
- adam tap dances
- does tap dancing have a score system?
- rhythm
- the way you taught us those 2 steps during the Sunday class was fantastic! - first scatting, replacing scats with movement, then implementing it to a routine
- could I mention that method it in my thesis?
- how did you come up with this technique? did you learn it from someone else, or did you think of it yourself? if yourself, how?
- it seemed that everyone got it by the first try. why does it work so well for everybody, even if everyone learns differently?
- have you tried this method with people who don't know how to dance? people who struggle to follow rhythm?
- non-verbal communication, non-verbal jokes
- what makes this chemistry not work? - try to break it down specifically, personal chemistry, rhythm, amount of effort from partner?
- what is a specific thing you look for in a parter? best aspect?
- what makes a connection delightful?
- not here to archive perfect dance, but also capture human mistakes
- to capture experience, mistakes need to be a part of it
16 NOV
Questions for Adam and Earanee
transition of information before YouTube
- do you think we can archive the experience of dance? - first & last question?
- do you have a personal method / system to capture dance? to memorise dance?
- what element do you think is most crucial when learning a new dance (style)? - rhythm, atmosphere, spacial awareness?
- what did Frankie think was most important in dance?
- what was his most common feedback?
- what did he pay most attention to?
- do you have any material of sessions with Frankie?
- Earanee, what would you have liked to ask Frankie of Norma?
- how do you think Frankie or Norma would have answered this question? (can we archive dance?)
- do you think I could even get a hold of Norma?
12 NOV
Notes from Savoy Inspiration workshop with Earanee Niedzwiecki & Adam Brozowski
Exercise (absorbing / directing)
- Damping momentum of partner as they walk
- Switch roles - follows become leaders
Exercise
- Damping momentum of partner as they triple step
- Switch roles - follows become leaders
- Give each other feedback during exercise
Note from Adam to improve my dancing:
- Soften bounce, knees don't need to be stiff
- Loosen arms, let them hang low, they don't need to keep to strict 'frame' - he doesn't like the term 'frame'
Learned 2 steps
- pointing finger at partner (it's you, not you, a-hu-hu-hu, pi-ra)
- pointing finger in the sky (previously taught at Swing in Rhythm)
- First group repeated his scat
- Slowly he merged scat with stomping and clapping
- Copied his stomping and clapping
Exercise
- Social dancing including new steps and absorbing / redirecting
11 NOV
About Earanee Niedzwiecki & Adam Brozowski - short bio taken from Swing in Rhythm workshop webpage
"A lover of Satchmo and Nat King Cole since childhood, Earanee grew up with an ear for jazz, studying saxophone and jazz vocals at high school. While many flock to Lindy Hop for its high energy steps, it was the swingin’ tunes that reeled Earanee into the dance world in 2010. She soon began following her love of swing dance around the globe, leaving her home in Adelaide to dance extensively in both Europe and the US. Now a seasoned instructor with experience teaching and competing both in Australia and abroad, Earanee has won titles at numerous events including The Mooche, ILHC, and Lindyfest."
"Adam Brozowski is a celebrated voice in the international community, and has been Lindy Hopping since the age of 10. Adam grew up dancing in the energy of the late 90's having had the honor to learn directly from some our greatest legends like Frankie Manning, Norma Miller, Jean Veloz, and the late great Dawn Hampton. Music and history play a huge influence on his perspective as a teacher, while creative expression and individuality are the hallmarks of his dancing. In his classes, Adam strives for a graceful balance between these two beautiful concepts. Adam hopes to inspire others to find the joy and freedom that swing music and dancing can give."
Notes from Musicality and Solo Jazz movements in Lindy Hop workshop with Earanee Niedzwiecki & Adam Brozowski
- Each dancer is a musician
- 50/50 role
- Follows should also be playful and initiate
- "Your arms are your ears"
Exercise (focus on simple rhythm)
- Leads lead for 8 counts
- Follows lead for 8 counts
- Leads lead for 8 counts
- Follows lead for 8 counts
Exercise (focus on solo jazz & rhythm)
- Leads lead for 8 counts
- Follows lead for 8 counts
- Leads lead for 8 counts
- Follows initiate solo jazz for 8 counts
Exercise
- Initiate solo jazz whenever you want
Exercise (creating music)
- bass / high hat in couples
Exercise
- Creating rhythms along the room
Exercise (rhythms during social dancing)
- Leads keep constant rhythm
- Follows play around with 'high hat' effect
Exercise (rhythms during social dancing)
- Follows keep constant rhythm
- Leads play around with 'high hat' effect
Exercise (rhythms during social dancing)
- Either / both follow or lead plays around with rhythm during social dancing
9 NOV
Meeting with Marloes
Intro
- why it's relevant? - doesn't have to be too strict
- make empathetic - oh that also applies to me!
- drive of society to capture everything
- include own thought on that
- teaser
Reasoning why I'm interested
- can start small / personal, and enlarge scope
- don't have to mention personal health if don't want to
- As a dancer: "a dance I love almost disappeared"
Dance as a Language
- include in intro
- it's tangible
- compare to other intangible / un-archivable things
Bergsonian / Newtonian as footnote
- "this concept explored further in.."
- possibly drop Alan Kay - if text is too long, discussion will be too long / off-tangent
- anecdotes and dance explanations are more interesting
augmented reality inside printed thesis publication - to show video / play sound
form chapter names as questions
poetic tite will come later
should I explain process of theory and experiments, or just let experiments flow into text?
- no need to explain methodology
- can mention in into that experiments were made to challange research question and theory
put experiments in appendices
- short intro and conclusion in text
- thesis isn't the project itself, it's a reflexion of the experiments backed up with theory
should I explain the difference in archiving / documenting / preserving?
- yes, explain what aim in research Q is
- explain what archiving is to me
8 NOV
Meeting with Anna
Reviewing Thesis Outine
Memory
"hippocampus / MRI scans / loss of memory / retrieving memory"
- vital part, do put it in there
- reasoning why I’m interested
- add to the beginning
Documentation in form of notation
- explain rant why swing almost died, video sucks
- sounds more like an intro
Memory
- good to have more experiments
- make more
- doesn’t have to be so academic
Capturing an Experience
- make experiments
Dance as a Language
- feels a little disconnected
- maybe add to different chapter / personal story
- possibly add to the beginning
“some tangibility in intangible experience” segway to Documentation in form of notation
if you can describe it, you can capture it. difficult in smell for example
How to present thesis?
- Anna's idea: hand crafted pop-up children’s book
- tracing paper, layering information on top of one another
6 NOV
Meeting with Aymeric
Q: can we archive dance? (specify social dance?)
break apart dance (layers? or larger topics: notation; social; memory)
- this yes..
- this not really..
- this only if..
conclusion might be:
some info is lost, only so much can be transformed to another medium
project: attempt to solve Q
- go crazy
- different medium / different systems (don't try to make a system that captures all aspects)
- multiply different way to capture same thing (notation + sound + video of rhythm)
- show failure too
- 'capturing' is interesting, but too much for entry point
- respond through theory and practice
Jung mystic.. ask Aymeric for reference
incorrect source, review of review?
transpose data into..
show culture too
culture though interviews / graphics
make Q playful
"endless work"
watch Brainstorm - sci-fi from 1983
- very cheesy
- ridiculous
- touches upon topic of capturing experience, and successfully translating / showing / decoding it to someone else
Q: can we archive dance?
A look into capturing (choose 3 things: technique; rhythm; notation; culture) in social dancing
5 NOV
how does your brain recall memories?
how comparable is a brain to an archive?
how does your brain compare to an archive?
- translating
- coding
- decoding
- transposing
Reminds me of my previous practise with Dutch proverbs, Decode from 2015
Also reminds me of Speak Italian by Bruno Munari
Attenzione!
They say that a gesture is worth a thousand words, and when it comes to speaking with your hands, the Italians speak volumes. This quirky handbook of Italian gestures, first published in 1958 by renowned Milanese artist and graphic designer Bruno Munari, will help the phalange-phobic decipher the unspoken language of gesturesa language not found in any dictionary. Charming black-and-white photos and wry captions evoke an Italy of days gone by. Speak Italian gives a little hand to anyone who has ever been at a loss for words.
3 NOV
How can we better approach capturing complex experiences through archiving?
three actors of interactions:
- own experience (Self)
- experience in dancing with others
- experience of audience
2 NOV
1 NOV
Meeting with Michael
how to revisit experience?
not about observing
perception of performer, not audience
can you gain sense of sight again?
one of the few tangible aspects in dance: contact with parter
buzzing suit in Todays Art from 2014
could try out to open up joysticks, buzz rhythm on legs (not feet) to get audience to feel rhythm
Brian House
Janet (mixable realities, gives bigger depth when hearing her previous audio recordings)
experiments / tests
- record the sound / rhythm in footsteps
- record dance body cam
- buzzing rhythm
- talk to blind dancer, see their point of view
- talk to elderly from Dans Paleis
Ted: Alone Together by Sherry Turtle
look at both past and present views
replaying my experience in somebody else's body
keep in mind, not same experience (bias)
not even for future self (reinvent memory)
dance becomes abstraction, becomes dance again
real -> symbolic -> real
breaking complex into layers (look at Michael's notes)
Swing in Rhythm exercise with Becky
lead / follow during swing outs
not tugging, but softly placing one hand above the other (almost levitating)
notes from that class (26th October)
Issues to be aware of in swing outs:
- followers being too early at 4
- not being too far away at 8
- followers coming forward too early at 1
- leads pulling
- keeping arms relaxed and low
- chests facing each other
breaking elements
guttorngard?
set game - create a set that is either:
- all the same
- all different
30 OCT
Vox: Why this awful sounding album is a masterpiece
I love the explanations and supporting visuals to Vox's Earworm podcast by Estelle Caswell. I've added her videos numerous times on this wiki page. All 6 videos available here
Here is another that I missed:
Vox: How a recording studio mishap shaped ’80s music
how to transcribe this video?
try voice to text technique using Google Docs
Meeting with Andre
dance as a system
constants, patterns
mathematical / scientific
formula behind pop songs / jazz songs
generative music, computer write sonata
David Burn (Bob Wilson - Dirty Dozen Brass Band)
Vox relation
notation is not the work, it's the blueprint / a score
Florian - context?
what separates dance and music with resource of score?
music has a way of transmitting score. score is accepted in music, but not in dance - why?
what is this important to you?
look at practitioners that look at memory
search on jstor key terms: dance & memory
Steve Paxton & Trisha Brown
'Material for the Spine'
main problem: not approaching the matter in a way I could deal with
- SongSim looks only at one element (lyrics)
- easy to encapsulate structure
- macro view
can you quantify dance by anything?
write / express BPM differently - shorter distances between lines, show faster BPM
make own notations on Labanotation
Special Issue 02 performance was a two part outcome
- a (graphical) documenting tool that I could personally use in the future
- playful, slightly educational, interactive experience for the audience
this frame could be used for the graduation project too
generative systems
squared paper - each square a second
visualisation
"basing on this, this and that factor, found these variables, time is constant"
WSA - looked at language of time to measure / quantify it
Johanna Drucker - Graphesis
pervious event in NY (Sept 2017)
29 OCT
I want the audience to decode a transcribed dance language (notation)
Figure it out by doing?
Mix and matching layers
Measuring time, time perception
Measuring dance
Dance perception
Decoding the language of dance
Need to describe it to document it
Different ways to describe dance (onomatopoeias, rhythm, scatting, graphical notation, BPM)
What was Laban's aim, drive, purpose?
Impossible to fully archive experience?
I suggest tackling this by making a coding system to capture an intangible object / experience / dance
My frustration? Video is actually a shitty medium to capture dance (an experience).
Aim: propose a new system / method / medium. Hopefully can be used for more experiences than just dance
Language has a key (alphabet) and is spread through word of mouth, contact with people.
The medium to archive it / preserve it (apart from word of mouth) are audio (recordings, songs, radio), visual (books, posters) and audio-visual (plays, films, tv)
How did some languages survive when suppressed during history / wars? Why did some die out? How are they being decoded?
26 OCT
Look for podcasts here
"SON[I]A aims to be an alternative way to receive the information produced during Museum activities; audio information brought to us by characters who take part in activities in and around the MACBA."
Feedback from Marloes and Steve
- 1-2 lines for research question
- if describe practise, what is it about?
- think about reader
25 OCT
why I am so keen on documenting / capturing dance?
previously thought about project to capture the relationship between Sean and I (the urgency was in capturing us before it was too late, before we split ways and before my memory fades) - sadly our splitting came faster than expected
yet I am still focused on notation, memory, the brain, archiving, capturing an experience
what makes it so urgent, so personal?
could it be anything, subconsciously, related to my MS? I do have a fear of losing my ability to dance, of losing my memory (again), of forgetting the memories I am forming now with my new ‘dance family’
I don’t want yet another project related to my health (Mind as a Dossier and Epilepic) in my portfolio. I don’t want to be that designer / creative that always falls back on this topic, possibly showing myself as a victim to pity over. The previous 2 were uplifting, educational, eye-opening, helpful.. but do I really want that to be my thing?
small project idea:
play around with light sensitive material that makes text vanish with time
text can be read for a few seconds after contact with light, then disappears
in order to keep the content of the book documented, photos on the phone should be taken? - will that work? isn’t that more light?
comparison to memory. the book is the knowledge that you have a memory, the content is the memory itself
e.g. “I remember eating dinner last night, but I can’t remember what it was”
Look back at previous texts, The Psychology Of Time Synopsis and Time Perspectives and Cultural Diversity, which look into Philip Zimbardo's time perception. I’d consider myself future TP, always planning ahead, excited about future, sometimes worried
- Past TP - focused on positives
- Past TP - focused on negative
- Present TP - hedonism (focus on joys of life)
- Present TP - fatalism (doesn't matter, life is controlled)
- Future TP - life goal oriented
- Future TP - transcendental (life begins after death or the mortal body)
Anna's feedback (summary from recorded conversation)
- don’t worry about it
- nothing to worry about, reasoning behind the start of the project (why I am doing it?) is not evident in work that is presented
- great to have personal starting point, personal things make great things
- everything you're going to do is going to be some representation of yourself, one way or another
- base of project can be health, go off of it, represent it so it's not read as "poor me, I'm sick"
- talk about archiving dance in a more generalised sense, say what you find interesting
The full conversation will be transcribed from audio soon. Here is a snippet that followed:
- A: have you tried to discover what would be the best way to gather this experience into one medium, or do you have to have multiple mediums?
- K: that's when I started looking into realities, and mixable realities, because if you just focus on one, the more you put data, the more you can express an experience.. although, as a viewer you will never have my experience, you will have your experience. Maybe if you've been to Crete before, then you could re-see what I saw. So you will never manage to get to a point where we can fully have the same experience.
- A: Because that's also based on previous experiences
- K: So it becomes a bias for sure
23 OCT
Feedback from Aymeric
pick one topic
one is not going to be better than the other
what do you really want to dive into?
make it concrete
- notation - non-universal / language specific
- mixable realities - experiencing the intangible
- subculture - transmission of knowledge
- archive - usefulness, temporary, making things public
how would you share / present this?
why interesting? in any other field?
- documentation - graphical / video / notebook
- special awareness - bird's eye view
- time / speed / rhythm - structured 8-count / free-flow scatting
sharing in community
Literate programming by Donald Knuth
interest into education: what's the best way to communicate?
perception
normalise / universal method is questionable
again universal method
subtle / diverse, people are perceiving knowledge differently
thesis structure doesn't need to be scientific
experiments / content / tools / methods as text, not appendices
thesis is distant reflexion
diversity in methods
- topic
- applied to dance
- what's the urgency to look into this topic? - reflect
- cultural diversity (preserve, not normalise world)
- pragmatic (interesting because truth in diversity in education. look into history of educational methods)
- find manner to show collected material
22 OCT
Facebook: Living In The Moment by Jason Silva
11 OCT
Experiment idea:
learn new Lindy steps with a friend using YouTube videos created by own dance school
10 OCT
YouTube: Brain Coupling by Jason Silva
9 OCT
Feedback from Andre
- start small approaches / tests / prototypes / experiments
- explore small themes continuously
- have 3-4 weeks to experiment
- then have 3-4 weeks to reflect on annotation from afar, to narrow down question
- what project could you do in 1 week?
- own note: don't want experiments just conducted by me, it'll be subjective / I know what outcome I want
- how do you represent your outcome? vector image / gif / sound file / sound image
use 3D glasses analogy - experience vs. data
difference in perception
Monoskop: Listening to Noise and Silence: Towards a Philosophy of Sound Art by Salomé Voegelin
sound is fleeting, not attainable
even static image is fleeting / an illusion
Cartographics: a site-specific audio-choreography by Petra Sabisch
strong effects with simple means: headphones; rooftop; mirror(?)
YouTube: Alter Bahnhof Video Walk
wikipedia: Conway's Game of Life
flow-chart-like
make choreographic description, then perform it
to do:
- make one experiment during holiday
- document it in blog / video / graphic notation
- add woman from movement workshop last year onto 'who could help you' list
25 SEPT
Psychology of dance
Dancehub: 5 Interesting Psychological Studies Involving Dancing
(not great source, but has many links to studies related to topic)
- Dancing Improves Your Brain
- Mental Practice Can Lead To Improved Dancing
- The Evolution Of Human Dance May Have Been A Mistake
- Dancers Can Learn Routines In Different Ways
- Girls Under Age 16 Have The Most Dancing Confidence
1. Dancing Improves Your Brain
Psychology Today: Why Is Dancing So Good for Your Brain?
more references / cited studies about how dancing can improve the brain
2. Mental Practice Can Lead To Improved Dancing
University of California Santa Clara Cruz: UCSC dance research published in prestigious Psychology Science journal
3. The Evolution Of Human Dance May Have Been A Mistake
American Psychological Association: Dance, dance evolution
not many animals have close connections between auditory and motor skills
"Psychologists’ research on the power of movement is giving us insight into why we first danced and how cultures built on that ancient impulse."
4. Dancers Can Learn Routines In Different Ways
Duke Chronicle: Research investigates the science behind dance
5. Girls Under Age 16 Have The Most Dancing Confidence (not related?)
The Guardian: Why do people dance?
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Springer: Thinking in action: thought made visible in contemporary dance by Catherine Stevens and Shirley McKechnie
Buy entire journal for EUR 42.29
or find through HR mediatheek
download links here
link to downloaded file
Abstract
Contemporary dance—movement deliberately and systematically cultivated for its own sake—is examined in the light of the procedural and declarative view of long-term knowledge. We begin with a description of two settings in which new works of contemporary dance are created and performed. Although non-verbal, contemporary dance can be a language declared through movement and stillness of the body. Ideas for new movement material come from objects, events or imaginings that are spoken, seen, heard, imagined, or felt. Declared through movement, the idea becomes visible. Communication in dance involves general psychological processes such as direct visual perception of motion and force, motor simulation via mirror neurons, and implicit learning of movement vocabularies and grammars. Creating and performing dance appear to involve both procedural and declarative knowledge. The latter includes the role of episodic memory in performance and occasional labelling of movement phrases and sections in rehearsal. Procedural knowledge in dance is augmented by expressive nuance, feeling and communicative intent that is not characteristic of other movement-based procedural tasks. Having delineated lexical and grammatical components in dance, neural mechanisms are identified based on Ullman’s (Ullman in Cognition 92:231–270, 2004) alignment of lexical knowledge with declarative memory and mental grammar with procedural memory. We conclude with suggestions for experiments to test these assumptions that concern thought in action in composition, performance and appreciation of contemporary dance.
check out their 60+ references
reference if want to add to own bibliography
Stevens, Catherine; McKechnie, Shirley (2005). "Thinking in action: Thought made visible in contemporary dance". Cognitive Processing. 6 (4): 243–252. doi:10.1007/s10339-005-0014-x.
Jstor: A Nonverbal Language for Imagining and Learning: Dance Education in K-12 Curriculum by Judith Lynne Hanna
20 SEPT
ABC Radio: Songlines: the Indigenous memory code
Japing Aboriginal Art: Why Songlines Are Important In Aboriginal Art
Amazon: Computer Power and Human Reason: From Judgment to Calculation by Joseph Weizenbaum (1976)
13 SEPT
look into: scatting as a measurement of time in dance
- it gives more possibilities (to distinguish the 4-'a'-5 counts)
- look into history, how / why / when it originated - Harlem late 1920s?
- learn to scat? what is important that may not seem obvious?
13 SEPT
Human Memory: Sensory Memory
- Sensory memory is the shortest-term element of memory
- Unlike other types of memory, the sensory memory cannot be prolonged via rehearsal
- decays or degrades very quickly, typically in the region of 200 - 500 milliseconds (1/5 - 1/2 second)
- visual stimuli is sometimes known as the iconic memory
- aural stimuli is known as the echoic memory
- touch as the haptic memory
- smell processed in olfactory bulb and olfactory cortex
- smell is strongest as olfactory bulb and olfactory cortex are nearest to the hippocampus
Meeting with Steve
Before starting PZI I was planning to look into digital publishing, interactive PDFs, change in technology and publishing, print vs digital. My thesis would have probably been an analysis of a section of publishing.
At the moment I feel that would be too simple. I'm more interested in creating something I might not get a chance to in the future: a large-scale installation / experience. This would not use a traditional publishing method as a means of communicating my research.
Do I stick to a topic that interests me and use publishing as a means, rather than analyse publishing itself?
- dance notation is a form of communication / publishing
- experiments as research method
- look at Victor's (fine art) thesis - diagrams
- editorial: how will yo present experiments (event? publication?)
- discrete things & how they come together?
- my practise addresses this, this and that
- these things create chapters, which allow for development
- literacy / non-verbal communication
- Sean v.s. new dance partners
- being a good lead or follow. listening communicating signs / signals. communicating by touch
- notation as a means of instruction
- aim: what am I doing? what do I want to make out of it?
Next steps:
- look through previous experiments
- where will they take me? what experiment will flow next? don't stress, it'll flow
- experiment 1: time perception
- experiment 2: rhythm and notation
- experiment 3: flow
- experiment 4: memory and senses?
- experiment 5: archive?
7 SEPT
Memories are stored in different senses.
We see, hear, smell things that remind us of things. Smell is able to bring very powerful flashbacks.
Can a movement reminds us of something / anything?
Contact
- Het Danspaleis
- dr Mol / dr Donselaar (Maasstad)
- dr Bert Aldenkamp (Kempenhaeghe)
- therapists?
- bravo europoort - psychiatry specialists / memory tests