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| This is henk-jelle being interviewe dby max
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| Let start off with these scans, have they actually what arethey
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| They are experiments with photons of light either directly on photopaper or reflected trough glaas / water onto photopaper to get a one on one image from the light
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| to have a more basic like a really minimalistic presentation or to much presentation.
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| At the moment they are digital images, it easyier to carry around the digital images then the original.
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| Are they 35mm? no no no ther is no film used only photopaper 35x30
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| and smaller ones, quite lagere little prints.
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| Yeah yeah u buy photographic paper its all white but if you put it in developer it turns black, but it stays wite the spots u put the light on the darker it gets.
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| what does the images look like, you are colourblind, so what does it look like.
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| well they are supposed to black and wite. Theylook purple to me.
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| I see them as black and white because I know its black and wite paper.
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| Might be misleading then..
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| We are looking at digital TIff images of scans. Can yo describe what you see.
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| It differents stronly at what picture we are looking at. But the one we are looking at is one of the last ones its actually light projhected on a large piece of paper.
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| I experimented enough to use the bigger paper, the bigger the paper the more it costs.
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| I used different posisions of light and developing time. I was quite happy and I finetuned how long the developer needs.
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| And I started expirimenting with making lines, its just seeeping a laaser across the paper.
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| We can see some hars lines and fingerprint textures. Yeah some kind of fingerprint texture. Its actually light trough glass because the imperfect glass reflects the light different. So we kind have 3 textures hard lines (6 of then) cloudiness and aactually fingerprints on ther?
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| No no there are no fingerprints on there, what do you think this is. this? no this?
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| This texturen. It light trough water it breaks up the light in millions of photons. Like in a pool when u see fractal like on de pool wall.
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| Like when the light goes trough a magnefieng glass, you get a perfect poitn and surrounding al kind of fractals.
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| SO the paper records the movement of the light? yeah.
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| So we see a print of fractals like eartly textures, but yeah we are only looking at one image and some are more open.
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| Yeah you can see in the procees I used moving water to get the momevent on the paper, It records the rays movement
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| Would you look to look at one picture to explaoin what is going on. I'm still a little bit blurry on the process.
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| So lets staret over with nothing:
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| yeah you have a light source like this one, one like on your bike and you put a transparent piece of glass in front. either a bottle or a lens.
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| Have a piece of paper to catch the light trough, when you take the lens or glass away the paper gets equall light and the paper will turn grey or black.
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| It staining paper with light. If you move the light around or the glass the light gets reflected in different ways, you get momentum of light being reflected on paper.
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| all of this was done with a strong laser, you turn it on and off quite quickly. Was it a dark room? Yeah a doke, it could be in any dark room but you need the devoloper close by. You made all this print at once? yeah in 3 ohours. Did you do one and look at the outcome and do it again. So on the 9e image it gets more complex.
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| I was looking for symmetry but thst the direction I was going for, the have no symmetric properties. You see the last gets mre contrast like a rourshak test.
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| Overexposed but still you can see traces of light. Yeah it was a beer bottle, you van see that the light gets more concetrated in some pieces of the paper.
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| It's a little bit of physics you know when you went to highschool where you expirimented with light and lensens breaking enlarging thins light upside down on your eyeball.
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| I knew that if I put fresnell lensen in front of the laser I get a point and not the fractels.
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| Expand on why did you make this:
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| from a point from where I .. It frelects greatly on my graduation work where I used a simmilair process where I used the same technique trough water colloms. that whre constanly running like dripping or thick lines of water. Where the laser breaks up again in fractals and catch it with a solar panel. people could adjust the water.
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| The solar panel transfeers the light into energy, energy is sound so I put it trough speakers. At that point I was focussing on how It should look and people interact with it
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| How I want it to use it and other people sould use it. Have can I capture this light? Maybe photopaper could do it. but thats more for still images and not mooving.
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| It comes from a project of your grauation work.
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| yeah it's influenced by it yeah.
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| There is an elemnt of unexpected tsting. Would the unexpected a elemnt hy you made it. Is there one you are happy with or is the procees more
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| The process in a whole is satisfyfing It's nice to have the upportunity to expirent with this. If you look at the different pictures you could see more in sertain images.
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| more strong shapes and lights and photos.
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| do you have a favorite?
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| No well..
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| Do you have a non favorite?
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| The darker ones from here this this this those 3.
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| If you show them in this order you see the process more. Yeah.
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| Have you got any feelings towards what the audience should experience?
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| Well its more of a not that the audience should experience the way its made more in what you see in it, more like a rorshak but also do you like and whould you take it home and put it on your wall?
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| yeah thats experience.
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| Do you want the audience being there onw judge of ther exprience.
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| yeah its not like that I want to tell the audience how they should feel, just if they like it or not..
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| Can we talk about the music track.
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| can uyou tellme what it is?
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| Well obviously its a music track, a song? what genre file format..
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| what ever you think is important to discribe.
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| What important is with this is that its the 2e version of a 3 version experiment.
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| I fucked up the 3e and the second one is the best.
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| so important to know that this is an earlier version that is better dan the 3e.
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| you have been listneing to a wave export on a iphone trough crsp speakers with thanks to piet zwart.
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| It's a genre of music that I would like to persue. Its all anologue made.
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| So how did you made this piece of analogue music.
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| It's all composed on a computer. Midi signals data trough outputs in analogue gear..
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| Midi send to analoge drumcputers / bass synths / polyphonice. With some tweaking by human influences. knob twiddling.
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| Rerecorded into the computer as one mix..
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| I was wrapping my head around this yesterday.
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| So you did: you compose a bit on the synths and it would playback on the system and record de output in de omputer.
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| Yeah I can record the movement of the filters or the parameters the synths have I can record this in the DAW logic in this case.
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| Recording the midi notes on the computer rearrange things on the computer and feed all the midi data back in the synths not only midi notes but also rotary knob info.
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| Ok... Why did you make it?
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| Well I was persueing a musica carreer and have free time on my hands and I really like to experiment in this way.
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| This time It was different because normally I use no computer to be away of all the distractions that come with it (like internet)
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| I used equipment from 3 earas of time and the technical part is hard to get right. But this time I used a computer to arrange my music on.
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| I composed on the computer but used all the analogue equipment to produce the sound.
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| It felt as the right time to do this experiment. yeah yeah
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| Because you weren't using the same machine as you use everyday..
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| It felt like a good match between machine and space.
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| Have you played this track to many people?
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| No.
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| What do you feel like that they want to experience with this?
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| Yeah its also quite hard It like with the photographs do you like what you are listnening to do you like it.
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| Would you listnen to it a t home or listnening more frequentely..
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| There is no higher method enjoy like it is.
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| What I dont want people to know is how its made.
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| I have seen it though..
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| In a way its like looking in a chefs kitchen and see how its done.
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| people could ask questions why its done and give critisism.
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| With music is comparable with other music pieces and i'm not looking for that.
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