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Within the framework of Narratives thematic project, I'll be be meeting with students. In informal work-sessions, we'll review and discuss the prototypes developed by the students, and discuss and problematize issues such as the boundaries of physical and digital (photo) books, and the potential, limits, and rationale of photo book as digital objects.

(This page will serve a log for the sessions, fell free to edit).

Dates

22/01/2015
19/02/2015
12/03/2015

work in progress session #1

Questions

Why a digital photography book? What is the added value of a digital photo book?

Digital books can serve:

moving image
generative or interactive works
wide audiences
reflowable context
reader generated content

Can a photo book exist without the unit of the page? As digital book formats, such as ePubs, content exists in a page-less container, with shifting dimensions and colors. In such reflowable layouts the book mutates visually from reading device to reading device. Can then a photo book, that is known for its articulation of images and sometimes text, over the space of the page inhabit this unstable territory? Can these shift and relocations become more than accidents and turn essential component of a photo book?

What can be considered a digital photo book? Can a book, whose its entire construction process, but its outcome, is digital, be considered a physical book? Is [The SKOR Codex|http://societeanonyme.la/] - a printed book made of binary encoded images - a physical book? Isn't it digital, since all information on it is displayed only in binary form? Can a website be a digital book?

The book as an experience As a reply to the previous question Manneta suggested that the book, more than an object is an experience. If it is so, we can perhaps create an object that is as removed as possible from the common image of the book, but that induces the same type of experience, an that object, through the experience, becomes a book. If that is case, the reverse, might also be possible: to create a book like object that is as removed from a book experience as possible, such is the case of The Black Book.

Can the same be applied to the specific case of photo books? Can experience and object be identified and subverted?

references

work in progress session #2

hello all!
PUT THIS ON THE WIKI ANDRE

11:00 - 12:30 Joana, Julie, Cihad, Ruben
Ruben
physical & digital books. Physical: a book with descriptions made by people, who see photos of one event.
The different prespectives of the same event.

previous sketches:

a book with photos from a trip to Tanzania.
Images from a train to the outside.
Media images of people talking. "See if I could tell a story, thought images, where the last image changes the prespective on the story course until that point"

Mediated images. Images collected from getty images.
How an image gives you a specific prespective to the rest of the content.

Google ads plastic bags ad in murder story.

Joana: Shifting from moving images, to still images as a way to tell a story
what is your question??

A longer term perspective

Collected found media created visual material.

Archiom's work. Google images

Ascii art

DIGITAL BOOK - only a few ideas
the noise on digital media on news.

Joana
performance and movent notation

seperating book making and photography.

the book as a choreogrphic objects. The book to perform action on a space

Book as providing a trajectory, with landmarks, ways. - George Perec - Life

Yoko Ono, Christian Wolf
- instruction pieces

A century of artist books

Lieven Van Speybroeck
http://pzwart3.wdka.hro.nl/wiki/Lieven_Van_Speybroeck http://pzwart3.wdka.hro.nl/wiki/Word_in_Process

The camera as an audience
Video - cutting the video into still images.

dialog between

Janet Cardiff - walks

13:30 - 15:00 Arantxa, benjamin l, Allyson ,Solange
Solange
templates books - screen shots of template anwant nd place them into the pages
why the symbols?
what kind of language?

getting symbols out of context and question

- what is the question?
can icons become more into something more than a symbol?
where do the icons for an photo come from? Why are considered a place holder for images and not images themselves?

How to present the research and ideas of the book?

benjamin Lee
Phtotographs from children in primary school, disposed by crossing the image with a pen marker
Comparasion, rythms to the images,

Iraquian photobooth

Arantxa
online information seen outside the context

Allyson
2 books: printed and digital

books that combine the cows and nudes, and create a new story with it.

fragments floating from source to destination.
croping and cutting into the pictures.

15:00 - 16:30 Yuzhen, Thomas,
Thomas
2 independent projects:

Digital book about a paper factory that got shot down.
Also have images from the factory in production
how to create a dialog between these 2 moments? working with similar perspectives

Story on porn and toilet paper - from Florian Themanic projects

Following a band for years, and creating a photobook

Sex Pistols tour

Yuzhen
Borroughs and Gyson folding technique

all the fragments into one book. details of what people talk about

the actors of the film

not sure about the content.

folded photobook

retreive the dialog from the film - character talking about time
the reader navigates the book by folding the book - by folding, one can read from one page to anotheryou are

time
what is your question??

Julie
associate url with representation of location to where servers are

http://www.panoramio.com

websites I browse are in the west

post cards - send postcards - a world wide network with the url, instead of the location.

the sensation of travelling

words - internet as non place

Do you need

16:30 - 18:00 manetta, Antman, Cristina
Manetta
photobook - semantic web - an interstic of linking information though semantic relation.
use the photobook as a way to create a semantic network - RDF
a film as the starting point, to annotate and create semantic relationships between it.
annotating chracter relations of the fild
Bamby as possibility

Dictomy - open format vs. copyrght disney

writing a new scripts based on the relationships

feeding it back with political content: photobook as indexed material, the program as product, system

digital and analog w
video on screen as a interesting

Lieven Van Speybroeck http://pzwart3.wdka.hro.nl/wiki/Lieven_Van_Speybroeck
https://vimeo.com/45743957

Surveillance and metada in aggregated metadata as forming a narrative
Jacob Appelbaum

Cristina
text as images
interpretation of Walter Benjamin "The Work of Art"
How a text is interpreted by a computer - ORC

new format of Captcha's that google uses now: tickboxes
a repository of photographs that weren't recognized as text,

What point does a text become an image?

face recognition at the clouds
ocr-reversed: drawing lines untill the programm recognizes a word in it

related to AI (artificial intelligents)
how a binary system can understand a gradual system

programm that connected advertisements to the keywords on a web page
example: murder in New York, wrapped in black plastic bags --> ad for plastic bags
--> miscommunication

places where sofware begins

Benjamin Antman
media decay
visualize a glitch - how different people intreprete differently

abstracting photographs
mushrooms - evolution
images

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax_scrolling
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141111-plants-have-a-hidden-internet

brainstorm

“Publishing” - the act of making things public. When a device collects and sends information on its user, it is making the user's information public, in other words it is publishing it. In that sense our traces are constantly being published, and building up a narrative about us.

Hasan Elahi is an artist that develops photographic works, based on surveillance as is James Bridle, Where The F**k Was I?

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+= work in progress session #2=
+hello all!<br />PUT THIS ON THE WIKI ANDRE<br /><br /><br /><br />''' 11:00 - 12:30 Joana, Julie, Cihad, Ruben'''<br />'''Ruben'''<br />physical &amp; digital books. Physical: a book with descriptions made by people, who see photos of one event. <br />The different prespectives of the same event.<br /><br />previous sketches: <br />
+* a book with photos from a trip to Tanzania.
+* Images from a train to the outside.
+* Media images of people talking. &quot;See if I could tell a story, thought images, where the last image changes the prespective on the story course until that point&quot;
+<br />Mediated images. Images collected from getty images. <br />How an image gives you a specific prespective to the rest of the content.<br /><br />Google ads plastic bags ad in murder story.<br /><br />Joana: Shifting from moving images, to still images as a way to tell a story <br />what is your question??<br /><br />A longer term perspective<br /><br /><br />Collected found media created visual material.<br /><br />Archiom's work. Google images <br /><br />Ascii art<br /><br />DIGITAL BOOK - only a few ideas<br />the noise on digital media on news.<br /><br />'''Joana'''<br />performance and movent notation<br /><br />seperating book making and photography.<br /><br />the book as a choreogrphic objects. The book to perform action on a space<br /><br />Book as providing a trajectory, with landmarks, ways. - ''George Perec - Life''<br /><br /><br />Yoko Ono, Christian Wolf<br /> - instruction pieces<br /><br />''A century of artist books''<br /><br />Lieven Van Speybroeck<br />http://pzwart3.wdka.hro.nl/wiki/Lieven_Van_Speybroeck http://pzwart3.wdka.hro.nl/wiki/Word_in_Process<br /><br /><br />The camera as an audience<br />Video - cutting the video into still images.<br /><br />dialog between <br /><br />Janet Cardiff - walks<br /><br /><br />''' 13:30 - 15:00 Arantxa, benjamin l, Allyson ,Solange'''<br /> '''Solange'''<br />templates books - screen shots of template anwant nd place them into the pages <br />why the symbols?<br />what kind of language?<br /><br />getting symbols out of context and question<br /><br />- what is the question?<br />can icons become more into something more than a symbol?<br />where do the icons for an photo come from? Why are considered a place holder for images and not images themselves?<br /><br />How to present the research and ideas of the book?<br /><br />'''benjamin Lee'''<br />Phtotographs from children in primary school, disposed by crossing the image with a pen marker<br />Comparasion, rythms to the images, <br /><br />Iraquian photobooth <br /><br />'''Arantxa'''<br />online information seen outside the context<br /><br />'''Allyson'''<br />2 books: printed and digital<br /><br />books that combine the cows and nudes, and create a new story with it.<br /><br />fragments  floating from source to destination.<br />croping and cutting into the pictures.<br /><br /><br /><br />''' 15:00 - 16:30 Yuzhen, Thomas, '''<br />'''Thomas'''<br />2 independent projects:<br /><br />Digital book about a paper factory that got shot down.<br />Also have images from the factory in production<br />how to create a dialog between these 2 moments? working with similar perspectives<br /><br />Story on porn and toilet paper - from Florian Themanic projects<br /><br /><br />Following a band for years, and creating a photobook<br /><br />Sex Pistols tour<br /><br />'''Yuzhen'''<br />Borroughs and Gyson folding technique<br /><br />all the fragments into one book. details of what people talk about<br /><br />the actors of the film<br /><br />not sure about the content. <br /><br />folded photobook<br /><br />retreive the dialog from the film - character talking about time<br />the reader navigates the book by folding the book - by folding, one can read from one page to anotheryou are <br /><br />time <br />what is your question??<br /><br />'''Julie'''<br />associate url with representation of location to where servers are<br /><br />http://www.panoramio.com<br /><br />websites I browse are in the west  <br /><br />post cards - send postcards - a world wide network with the url, instead of the location.<br /><br />the sensation of travelling<br /><br />words - internet as non place<br /><br />Do you need <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />''' 16:30 - 18:00 manetta, Antman, Cristina'''<br />'''Manetta'''<br />photobook - semantic web - an interstic of linking information though semantic relation.<br />use the photobook as a way to create a semantic network - RDF<br />a film as the starting point, to annotate and create semantic relationships between it. <br />annotating chracter relations of the fild<br />Bamby as possibility <br /><br />Dictomy - open format vs. copyrght disney <br /><br />writing a new scripts based on the relationships<br /><br />feeding it back with political content: photobook as indexed material, the program as product, system<br /><br />digital and analog w<br />video on screen as a interesting <br /><br />Lieven Van Speybroeck http://pzwart3.wdka.hro.nl/wiki/Lieven_Van_Speybroeck<br />https://vimeo.com/45743957<br /><br />Surveillance and metada in aggregated metadata as forming a narrative<br />Jacob Appelbaum<br /><br />'''Cristina'''<br />text as images<br />interpretation of Walter Benjamin &quot;The Work of Art&quot;<br />How a text is interpreted by a computer - ORC<br /><br />new format of Captcha's that google uses now: tickboxes<br />a repository of photographs that weren't recognized as text,<br /><br />''What point  does a text become an image?''<br /><br />face recognition at the clouds<br />ocr-reversed: drawing lines untill the programm recognizes a word in it<br /><br />related to AI (artificial intelligents)<br />how a binary system can understand a gradual system<br /><br />programm that connected advertisements to the keywords on a web page<br />example: murder in New York, wrapped in black plastic bags --&gt; ad for plastic bags<br />--&gt; miscommunication <br /><br />places where sofware begins <br /><br /><br />'''Benjamin Antman'''<br />media decay<br />visualize a glitch - how different people intreprete differently<br /><br />abstracting photographs <br />mushrooms - evolution<br />images <br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax_scrolling<br />http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141111-plants-have-a-hidden-internet<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
+-----
 =brainstorm=
-* Film: ''How to Make a Book with Steidl''
 “Publishing” - the act of making things public. When a device collects and sends information on its user, it is making the user's information public, in other words it is publishing it. In that sense our traces are constantly being published, and building up a narrative about us.
 [http://elahi.umd.edu/ Hasan Elahi] is an artist that develops photographic works, based on surveillance as is James Bridle, [http://shorttermmemoryloss.com/portfolio/project/where-the-fk-was-i/ Where The F**k Was I?]

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