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utube used in a collaborative way | utube used in a collaborative way | ||
as archive to save tag describe and relate | as archive to '''save tag describe and relate''' | ||
documentatin vids | documentatin vids | ||
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we need a protections of historical net mo(nu)ments | we need a protections of historical net mo(nu)ments | ||
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structural problems of archiving net art activities | structural problems''' of archiving net art activities | ||
concept, technical and conceptual borders, authorsip, original, rights | concept, technical and conceptual borders, authorsip, original, rights | ||
,instistutional critique(art market, canon, gallery, museum) | ,instistutional critique(art market, canon, gallery, museum) | ||
institutional problems | '''institutional problems''' | ||
last to eterninty utopic, new taxonomies needed | last to eterninty utopic, new taxonomies needed | ||
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with digital artifacts thereis no right | with digital artifacts thereis no right thing to do and way to document | ||
is always a way to do it and its aytgencit | is always a way to do it and its aytgencit | ||
each documentatin makes more plausible | each documentatin makes more plausible | ||
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DRAGAN | DRAGAN | ||
Dealing with big data in a personal scale | '''Dealing with big data in a personal scale | ||
Geocities--hives | '''Geocities--hives | ||
torrents in archive | torrents in archive | ||
not databased data- no value | not databased data- no value | ||
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digital culture is always about a practise not about an artifact | digital culture is always about a practise not about an artifact | ||
(how ehere this files created, who used then, etc context) | (how ehere this files created, who used then, etc context) | ||
SCREENSHOTS AND | '''SCREENSHOTS AND | ||
TAGS | TAGS | ||
narration!! | narration!!''' | ||
the idea of content and databases | the idea of content and databases | ||
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(biographical, not by year, not by name!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) | (biographical, not by year, not by name!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) | ||
databases are very opque to the users | '''databases are very opque to the users | ||
arbituary combinations | arbituary combinations''' | ||
with respect to semantic metadata they change teknical metadata | with respect to semantic metadata they change teknical metadata | ||
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the active user-the active visitor | the active user-the active visitor | ||
net based art comes in your home | '''net based art comes in your home | ||
u are safe | u are safe | ||
u are not prepared | u are not prepared | ||
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SINGING THE CODE | SINGING THE CODE | ||
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natural behaviour!!!of the ptojects which has its own life and then disappear | natural behaviour!!!of the ptojects which has its own life and then disappear | ||
remove--remaining pieces-they can say much more about the work | '''remove--remaining pieces-they can say much more about the work | ||
than it itself | than it itself''' | ||
some of them still online coz he hasnt got access to the servers | some of them still online coz he hasnt got access to the servers | ||
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digital restoration | digital restoration | ||
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traces= invent your own story | traces= invent your own story | ||
less data we have more phanatsy we have to use | less data we have more phanatsy we have to use''' | ||
Latest revision as of 17:30, 29 November 2013
SAKROWSKI curating utube
with dullart netartdatabase.org
utube used in a collaborative way as archive to save tag describe and relate documentatin vids
netscape navigator 3.0
lostdomains and projects
archive mailinglists?
re-dds.nl save the web= raise your browser at 500m b and start a torrent evolt.org archive.org (interconnect) rafael rozendall no interconnectins if u save his work we need a protections of historical net mo(nu)ments
structural problems of archiving net art activities concept, technical and conceptual borders, authorsip, original, rights ,instistutional critique(art market, canon, gallery, museum)
institutional problems last to eterninty utopic, new taxonomies needed
simple solution utube as archive metadata intergrated in the video from DUPLIN CORE
hardware gets obsolete
if noone remembers how it was noone can understand it
usage of the description field tag function not avilable any more, response function 0.00004 tis ekato users have used it
pdf instuctions
problemsn n solution(storage systens perfekt taxonomy = folxonomy, and simple dublin core, and databse model, original, matinenance costs, cultural significane of netart) main difference to traditional archiving the focus on perception situation and the context
net art- particular performacne and interaction , inseparable from hardwared and softwrae context
youtube used by users as archiving tool(music with atmhospere and
hardware, gaming,
manifest in stone 1999
www.antworten.de
institute of network culture same methodology but another approach on hardware they used the actual computer
showing the hardware is good for presentation , if its doesnt exist anymore u can show how it was
with digital artifacts thereis no right thing to do and way to document
is always a way to do it and its aytgencit
each documentatin makes more plausible
new level of documentation
artists aware of arhiving
DRAGAN
Dealing with big data in a personal scale Geocities--hives torrents in archive not databased data- no value how databases shape digital culture bring data to datapile how can digital culture stay in use and understandable? digital culture is always about a practise not about an artifact (how ehere this files created, who used then, etc context) SCREENSHOTS AND TAGS narration!! the idea of content and databases
the deletion of geociteis brauth a lot of knowledge on the geocities delted tweets big data oracle that creates an illusiuon of truth ambiguus data- database data
the idea of a database is that everything (data independency) that its units in is the smalles semantic item, the nost easy numerable thing and can be combined again in further amgiguus data beeing dangerous or bad megaupload dangerous data was closed megaupload becaus u cant search etc but ...
free form content doenst make sense
olia lialina take your time
DATABASE MODEL GOOGLE+ poping up the smallest point of data (GOOGLEs idea of history with most used results in search) data that never narrates they cant control the context the database can recombine babla so its sets us free from updating (stimulation, non manual labour)
simple options as tomove files have been exluced in newer systems
hight fidelty atuographical record collection (biographical, not by year, not by name!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
databases are very opque to the users arbituary combinations
with respect to semantic metadata they change teknical metadata
digital culture mass culture
if u dont wokr in 10000 things the same time u odo sth wrong
arhicving in huge scale
data harvesting n mining
not databasable
geocities became content
reocities
user- culture not culture of the great men like Tim BenLEeor ZUgerberg
some of them have found their pages again
IGOR
INTIMA
make love not art
theater understand the audience in 1 unit not 1 to on1 communication and the performer doesnt care about each one individualy
internet as context of 1-1 communication(intimate)the user has to be active(to click etc) the active user-the active visitor
net based art comes in your home u are safe u are not prepared
SINGING THE CODE (NET -PERF ) DANCING THE CODE BALLETIKA INTENRETIKA
expunction
wap
art as error
neues fur WAP
deletion- removed and they are not accesible any more, communication via faceobok
every 2-3 years they were functioning any more they broswers were changing, deletion not as a kind of agression etc but as a kind of a normal natural behaviour!!!of the ptojects which has its own life and then disappear
remove--remaining pieces-they can say much more about the work than it itself
some of them still online coz he hasnt got access to the servers
digital restoration
traces= invent your own story less data we have more phanatsy we have to use
communication with museum
how do we have the original?
how do we do the transfer
?
zip files
fragmented archive
ENOUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
art is dissapearing splitting no meaning puropose but dissapearing
NOW LETS MAKE LOVE