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==about collective writing==
==about collective writing==


=== definitions ===
Collective writing is a type of writing in which Multiple authors collaborate to create etc
Reminder about the publishing experiment they produced in the 30s when a bunch of British authors produced a collaborative detective fiction for the bbc, at the time when the radio was still not so spread out and known as a common media as later in the years. They worked together writing chapters of the story one after the other and then broadcasted their piece every Saturday. There were a lot of complications because of problems of authorship, copyright and little time for the production of the newspaper, the listener.
The release of this week will be our experiment with writing for the radio, writing a piece of text that will be recorded and edited by you.
There are many different techniques in collaborative writing and what we chose for this week creates a structure based on a refrain. At the end, the pieces will build up different scenarios and visions based on the same beginning or end.
We chose a method that can be still interdependent and interconnected and collaborative but at the same time allows everyone to work at their own pace and time, without needing to slow down to wait for someone else’s piece.
 
=== references and ideas ===
 
Reference text: "A cross-media experiment in publishing and broadcasting crime fiction in the early 1930s" by Alexis Weedon: https://hub.xpub.nl/soupboat/~flem/%5BMedia%20History%20vol.%2013%20iss.%201%5D%20Weedon%2C%20Alexis%20-%20%E2%80%98BEHIND%20THE%20SCREEN%E2%80%99%20AND%20%E2%80%98THE%20SCOOP%E2%80%99%20%282007%29%20%5B10.1080_13688800701264942%5D%20-%20libgen.li.pdf


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaborative_fiction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaborative_fiction
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertext_fiction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertext_fiction


=== ideas===
Different types of collaborative writing activities: https://secondaryenglishcoffeeshop.blogspot.com/2017/04/collaborative-writing-activities.html
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uTwsuGOs51MFbWaA4Hv1bBjgNEbQRRbC/view


== possible plans ==
== possible plans ==

Revision as of 13:55, 17 May 2022

24th May 2022 - CARETAKERS' PROPOSAL

starting point

proposalspad

Experimental publishing and broadcasting following the experiments made with the radio in the 1930s + notation system Reference text: "A cross-media experiment in publishing and broadcasting crime fiction in the early 1930s" by Alexis Weedon

https://hub.xpub.nl/soupboat/~flem/%5BMedia%20History%20vol.%2013%20iss.%201%5D%20Weedon%2C%20Alexis%20-%20%E2%80%98BEHIND%20THE%20SCREEN%E2%80%99%20AND%20%E2%80%98THE%20SCOOP%E2%80%99%20%282007%29%20%5B10.1080_13688800701264942%5D%20-%20libgen.li.pdf

The_Scoop_and_Behind_the_Screen

interesting concepts for the creation of the piece

"In 1930 the BBC invited well-known writers to write different chapters in a thriller for radio. The stories were published in The Listener magazine the following week."

a text for broadcasting is different from a text made for reading: can we work on this and when we exchange the pieces we transform the text to be broadcasted?

"One particular difficulty was Walpole’s refusal to write out the story word for word, preferring the spontaneity of speaking from notes" --> is there someone that want to broadcast from notes and not from a text? (check explanation option2)

"Mr. Marshall or I will revise and correct it on Sunday afternoon and post it to the printers so that they have it at half past seven on Monday morning. The printers will arrange to leave the requisite space, but of course no one will be able to see a proof." they couldn't proofread the print of the Listener mag

"To the speed of production was added the complications of multiple authorship, for while each author had the continuation or instalment from the previous writer, it was not always in good time or consistent"

RESULTS OF THE EXPERIMENT: "To find out whether listeners liked the story and wanted another Ackerley published a survey. He received nearly 1,500 appreciations and 60 criticisms: many said there were too many instalments or the instalments were too short. Seventy-three thought the synopsis too long and wearisome and that it should be printed in The Radio Times." think about how long should a piece for the radio be, how many instalments work?

- create collective writing

- everyone reads and records a chapter

- everyone plays with the effects to create original versions

- from “the problems of notation”, scratch history: exchange the pieces

produce—>share—>exchange—>perform—>edit—>produce—>share—>(..go on)
writing <—> performing = exchange of pieces to be performed by others

- chapter mode

- the results will be transposed/transcripted to text and published as a newspaper —> check transposing software from voice to text (we could also use VOSK and do a live transcription but then we would need people to be up for a meeting?)

what would be essential for me is: to exchange the pieces to be recorded and interpret by others & transcription to newspaper/print.

the idea

The purpose would be to replicate the first broadcasters' experience (see reference text) in trying to bring a piece of writing to the radio/audio environment, and mix it with the notation system that produces multiple interpretation of a piece. The idea could be: 1. to have the piece ready by Sunday to be transcribed and printed on Monday to have a newspaper ready for Tuesday morning. OR 2. to prepare the texts to be ready for Tuesday morning and then read and record them live with vosk, and send them to the printer (receipt printer or the other one) directly through Python and have both the recording and the "newspaper" ready while we are in the room. --> LIVE TRANSCRIPTION

[it's doable, i need to try this out in the sound studio with the printer if it works: vosk python3 script.py >> filename.txt >> (to append) > (to overwrite) how to talk to the printer? same concept that creating txt file]

things still to be thought through

1. What kind of text should we be writing? (SEE PLANS OPTIONS OR PROPOSE NEW ONES)

2. Can we work on a collective text made in small chapters that we can then exchange and interpret? Do we have enough time for this?

3. It would be nice to describe the task as a total open proposal to write anything and interpret it in any way we can think of (e.g. it's not essential to write words(?) or to write a story, but they could also be similar-notations, or it's not essential to read the words, you can also use a story to record sounds etc..)

4. how can we be split up into couples to work on this? --> we could also split up into 3-people-groups and create the collective texts inside the groups to have around 3 pieces to be broadcasted, then anyway exchange the 3 pieces between the different groups to be interpreted.

about collective writing

Collective writing is a type of writing in which Multiple authors collaborate to create etc Reminder about the publishing experiment they produced in the 30s when a bunch of British authors produced a collaborative detective fiction for the bbc, at the time when the radio was still not so spread out and known as a common media as later in the years. They worked together writing chapters of the story one after the other and then broadcasted their piece every Saturday. There were a lot of complications because of problems of authorship, copyright and little time for the production of the newspaper, the listener. The release of this week will be our experiment with writing for the radio, writing a piece of text that will be recorded and edited by you. There are many different techniques in collaborative writing and what we chose for this week creates a structure based on a refrain. At the end, the pieces will build up different scenarios and visions based on the same beginning or end. We chose a method that can be still interdependent and interconnected and collaborative but at the same time allows everyone to work at their own pace and time, without needing to slow down to wait for someone else’s piece.

references and ideas

Reference text: "A cross-media experiment in publishing and broadcasting crime fiction in the early 1930s" by Alexis Weedon: https://hub.xpub.nl/soupboat/~flem/%5BMedia%20History%20vol.%2013%20iss.%201%5D%20Weedon%2C%20Alexis%20-%20%E2%80%98BEHIND%20THE%20SCREEN%E2%80%99%20AND%20%E2%80%98THE%20SCOOP%E2%80%99%20%282007%29%20%5B10.1080_13688800701264942%5D%20-%20libgen.li.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaborative_fiction

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_novel: A chain novel or chain story is a type of collaborative fiction written collectively by a group of authors. The novel is passed along from author to author, each adding a new chapter or section to the work, with the rule that each subsequent chapter or section should elaborate and follow the plotline of preceding chapters or sections.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addventure: An addventure, also known as a collaborative gamebook, is a type of online interactive fiction that combines aspects of round-robin stories and Choose Your Own Adventure-style tales. Like a round-robin story, an addventure is a form of collaborative fiction in which many authors contribute to a story, each writing discrete segments. However, like a gamebook, the resulting narrative is non-linear, allowing authors to branch out in different directions after each segment of the story. The result is a continually growing work of hypertext fiction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertext_fiction

Different types of collaborative writing activities: https://secondaryenglishcoffeeshop.blogspot.com/2017/04/collaborative-writing-activities.html

possible plans

option1.[separate pieces] Write text>exchange pieces>interpret the text and record it>transcribe>print newspaper [this is better as we have little time but less fun]

option2.[Collective piece in chapters] Write chapter1st>give it to someone>write 2nd chapter>go on until everyone wrote>exchange pieces>interpret the text and record it>transcribe>print newspaper

option3.[notation system] Write notation to write a text>exchange notations>write texts>exchange texts>interpret the text and record it>transcribe>print newspaper [this is complicated because we need to exchange twice]

    • when we exchange pieces they could be edited to be adapted to broadcasting, as well as for personal interpretation

--> open to suggestions for the creation of the text. In my opinion, the collective text would be an interesting experiment for us but it's not essential.---> we could also pick a text of our choice and etc...

we could also start from the same sentence, split up into 3 groups, and write a text to be read all starting from the same thing and see what happens?