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=Publication=
* feel free to change any anything
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= Topics =
What has been done so far?


== Distribution  ==
What can be done?
MONDAY


10:00-11:30 Introduction Annet and Andre
Choose a work and produce a translation of it.


11:30-12:30 Aymeric Mansoux (Monday) - ''Novel forms of distribution: cultural diffusion of proto free and free culture (undefined notions of access, freedom and public ).''
Next meeting we should be presented with a few translations.  


12:30-13:30 Lunch break


13:30-14:30 Amy Wu (Monday) - ''Fazines and underground networks of publications' distribution.''
==Jan 20==
* no translations
* start the epub from the report produced by steve.
* git rep
* is it something you want to do?
* https://github.com/pietzwart/making-it-public


14:30-15:00 Break
* Making the epub from the translations and documentation


15:00-17:30 Practice


17:30-18:30 Dinner break
== division of tasks==
* Natalya: content transformations from videos onto still images ( pixel scan) + code snipets
* Pleun: design 
* Colm: gathering and preface
* Samira: write, editor
* Nadine: coordinator
* Max: translation onto code
* Stone: content translation
* Julia: reflective text (TBA)
* Sara:


==tools==
* Git
* Epub


18:30-22:30


Introduction / comments by Martino Morandi


Francoise Levie, The Man Who Wanted to Classify the World (2002) - 60 min
==Pleun - Index==
http://pzwart1.wdka.hro.nl/~pleun/makeitpublic/ 


Ben Lewis, Google and the World Brain (2012) - 90 min


Bregtje ter Haak, Digital Memory Loss (2014) - 49 min (if needed ?)
=Feedback=
http://tegenlicht.vpro.nl/afleveringen/2014-2015/digitaal-geheugenverlies.html ( i think there is also a subtitled version)
==Stone==
* Not interested in topic. Finds little value in the format?
* Interested in design part, interested, similar to the web-design
* Working on a photobooks and non-the-less experimenting making epub


==Max==
* intense, long days (tiring)
* '''5 days''' could be more appropriate, since they allow the creating work, and for thoughts and work start to alignment
* interested in talks


Pre-reading
==Nadine==
* interesting the different perspectives on the same subject


Wittgenstein,
==Colm== 
* topics for the days - titles, texts, talk - realizing how deep each threat of the topic helps.
* confuse: how far they should go? Would like the expected outcome was more clear from the beginning.


Chantal Mouffe
==Pleun==
* something happens when you go white far
* wish to have it every month


Harvey.
==natalya==
* look at an object like an epub - from something technical and practical, to a more experimental and exploratory object


==Julia==
* unsure about if 3 days or good, or should go long
* suspicious about the topic - everything around the topic was interesting
* was not clear where the connections were.
* 3 days were about '''ways of doing''', rather than the content.


Additional reading
==Sara==
* intense, but needed, specially after 1 month unemployment
* 1st impression was not of interest, but also because it was a foreign topic
* texts created interested
* pity to have not discussed the texts - since they are ways to process the rest of the readings and talks. Need to approach the text differently.
* Report (Steve) - as way of process
* work in groups and without hierarchies
* necessity for collective thinking -


Aymeric Mansoux, How Deep is Your Source
==Annet==
* necessary to work more with the students for the preparation phase. Talk them more on what to expect.
* guests - what did you feel?
* content - underestimated the context of the content.


== Writing the Archive ==
* (students were not making the connections, being active withing the text)
TUESDAY


10:30-11:30 Introduction Annet and Andre


11:30-12:30 Sandra Fauconnier - Writing Wikimedia


12:30-13:30 Lunch break


13:30-14:30  Michael Murtaugh - ''Active Archives; Erkki Kurenniemi: In 2048''  - '''will be remote from MIT, will do it in afternoon'''
----
necessaity to prepare
   


14:30-15:00 Break


15:00-17:30 Practice


17:30-18:30 Dinner break


= To do =
* send email to all participants with their time.


Pre-reading
=To Bring in=
* @andre:
** audio recorder
** books
** Film: "The Man Who Wanted to Classify the World"


Geoff Cox, Nicolas Malevé, Michael Murtaugh, Archiving the Data-body: human and nonhuman agency in the documents of Kurenniemi
= Planning =


Lori Emmerson, The influence of writing interfaces - typewriter, computer terminal, ipad - on the text works produce with them.
== Goals for the work sessions ==
* conceive and implement an electronic publication for the works developed under the context of the documentation project.
* discover the works, letting the works talk for themselves, before framing them 
* organize the works so that an entity (a narrative?) emerges from the publication 


== Digital & Hybrid Publishing ==
== (Possible) Task distribution for Publication ==
WEDNESDAY


10:30-11:30 Introduction Annet and Andre
=== Monday===


11:30-12:30 Florian Cramer -  ''Off-line digital reading''
* Introduction to the Documentation project at MMDDC
* Introduction to Hybrid publishing


12:30-13:30 Lunch break
* Documentation goals: publicity, funding, process
* Exploring the documentation materials and their different media( video, photography, text, print) -  
(As 1 single group OR 1 group per year for?)
* Exploring overlaps: funding + process for different purposes
* Strategies for digitizing off-line content
* Strategies for common and retrievable storage


13:30-14:30 Pia Pool - ''Digital publishing for publishers''
=== Tuesday===
* the same groups as yesterday.


14:30-15:00 Break
Think about the output format the epub.


15:00-17:30 Practice
Stipulate a goal for your publication.


17:30-18:30 Dinner break
Address the steps that you'll need to get there.


What will be the limitations?


Pre-reading


Katherine Hayles, Writing Machines (chapters 1,2,3) http://monoskop.org/images/b/bf/Hayles_N_Katherine_Writing_Machines.pdf
Homework: Make a written summary  (1 paragraph ) of your publication.


Johanna Drucker, A Centruy of Artists Books: artists books as self-reflexive objects


Johanna Drucker, Graphesis http://www.johannadrucker.com/pdf/graphesis_2011.pdf


* division into 3 teams, each dealing respectively with: '''Source material''', '''publishing pipeline''',   '''Front-end design'''
* '''implement a prototype''' that puts into practice the necessary tasks


[[User:Castrobot|Castrobot]] ([[User talk:Castrobot|talk]]) 22:05, 27 September 2015 (CEST) Wonders about this categories: At the moment I see 2 large areas: publishing and archive. Should documentation also be considered?
==== Groups and Tasks:====
<s>* Source material
** digitization
** storage and organization on the wiki
** context, information


* Publishing pipeline
** getting the content from storage (wiki) into its publishable form
** publishable format(s)
** translations necessary to represent works under the publishable format


= Structure =
* Front-end design
Each of the thematic's days could perhaps be organized, according to:
** publishable format(s)
* 10:00 - 11:00 Reading list presentation and discussion. Aiming to prepared the ground for the presentations that will follow. Participants present (organized in groups) 2 or 3 of the titles from the reading list.   
** identity of publication(s)
* 11:00 - 13:00 Guest presentations
</s>
* 14:00 - 17:00 Workshop - how to create the publication? We need to walk together through the material, the aim of the publication, the different necessary tasks:
** works: storing, describing classifying on the wiki
** publishing pipeline: getting the content from wiki into a publishable form
** front-end design: how the publishable output(s) will look like.
** communication and distribution


=Films=
=== Wednesday:===
* (possible) William Raban - 72-82 (2014) http://www.acme.org.uk/commissions/williamrabanfilm - '''ask Andre for film'''. It is interesting use of archive material to portrait a space and time.
* Continue to work on Tuesday prototypes
* results, issues, questions
* elaborate a proposal a simple for the continuation of the work


=Reading list: key arguments=
== Reading groups ==
==Hayles, Katherine. Writing Machines==
===Monday:===  
Chapters: 1,2,3
* conflict
* the work being influenced by the ''materiality'' of its ''inscription technologies''
*  artist's book and concrete poetry reflect upon and expose this influence of the inscription technologies. (22:05, 27 September 2015 (CEST) will also include some web art works - Jodi - or glitch art though the introduction of errors).


elaboration ideas:
=== Tuesday:===
* how is the current writing inscription technologies affecting what is being written? Examples of this influence are clear in music the 3' song form that result form the duration of a side from a 78rpm record.
* the web &amp; algorythms as a writing technologies 
* can the publication of works across multiple media, like in hybrid publishing, inhibit the dialog and reflection between work and inscription technology?


* links to other texts:
===Wednesday===
** Lori Emmerson: the influence of writing interfaces - typewriter, computer terminal, ipad - on the text works produce with them.
 
** Johanna Drucker "A Centruy of Artists Books": artists books as self-reflexive objects
 
** Johanna Drucker "Graphesis": proposals for exploration of writing technologies - footnotes, taes of contents, referencing, etc - in digital and networked environments.
 
=Notes=
[[User:Castrobot/Making It Public-Notes]]

Latest revision as of 10:51, 20 January 2016

Page dedicated to brainstorming, planning and preparation of the thematic

Publication

What has been done so far?

What can be done?

Choose a work and produce a translation of it.

Next meeting we should be presented with a few translations.


Jan 20

  • Making the epub from the translations and documentation


division of tasks

  • Natalya: content transformations from videos onto still images ( pixel scan) + code snipets
  • Pleun: design
  • Colm: gathering and preface
  • Samira: write, editor
  • Nadine: coordinator
  • Max: translation onto code
  • Stone: content translation
  • Julia: reflective text (TBA)
  • Sara:

tools

  • Git
  • Epub


Pleun - Index

http://pzwart1.wdka.hro.nl/~pleun/makeitpublic/


Feedback

Stone

  • Not interested in topic. Finds little value in the format?
  • Interested in design part, interested, similar to the web-design
  • Working on a photobooks and non-the-less experimenting making epub

Max

  • intense, long days (tiring)
  • 5 days could be more appropriate, since they allow the creating work, and for thoughts and work start to alignment
  • interested in talks

Nadine

  • interesting the different perspectives on the same subject

Colm

  • topics for the days - titles, texts, talk - realizing how deep each threat of the topic helps.
  • confuse: how far they should go? Would like the expected outcome was more clear from the beginning.

Pleun

  • something happens when you go white far
  • wish to have it every month

natalya

  • look at an object like an epub - from something technical and practical, to a more experimental and exploratory object

Julia

  • unsure about if 3 days or good, or should go long
  • suspicious about the topic - everything around the topic was interesting
  • was not clear where the connections were.
  • 3 days were about ways of doing, rather than the content.

Sara

  • intense, but needed, specially after 1 month unemployment
  • 1st impression was not of interest, but also because it was a foreign topic
  • texts created interested
  • pity to have not discussed the texts - since they are ways to process the rest of the readings and talks. Need to approach the text differently.
  • Report (Steve) - as way of process
  • work in groups and without hierarchies
  • necessity for collective thinking -

Annet

  • necessary to work more with the students for the preparation phase. Talk them more on what to expect.
  • guests - what did you feel?
  • content - underestimated the context of the content.
  • (students were not making the connections, being active withing the text)




necessaity to prepare



To do

  • send email to all participants with their time.

To Bring in

  • @andre:
    • audio recorder
    • books
    • Film: "The Man Who Wanted to Classify the World"

Planning

Goals for the work sessions

  • conceive and implement an electronic publication for the works developed under the context of the documentation project.
  • discover the works, letting the works talk for themselves, before framing them 
  • organize the works so that an entity (a narrative?) emerges from the publication 

(Possible) Task distribution for Publication

Monday

  • Introduction to the Documentation project at MMDDC
  • Introduction to Hybrid publishing
  • Documentation goals: publicity, funding, process
  • Exploring the documentation materials and their different media( video, photography, text, print) -

(As 1 single group OR 1 group per year for?)

  • Exploring overlaps: funding + process for different purposes
  • Strategies for digitizing off-line content
  • Strategies for common and retrievable storage

Tuesday

  • the same groups as yesterday.

Think about the output format the epub.

Stipulate a goal for your publication.

Address the steps that you'll need to get there.

What will be the limitations?


Homework: Make a written summary (1 paragraph ) of your publication.


  • division into 3 teams, each dealing respectively with: Source material, publishing pipeline,   Front-end design
  • implement a prototype that puts into practice the necessary tasks

Groups and Tasks:

* Source material

    • digitization
    • storage and organization on the wiki
    • context, information
  • Publishing pipeline
    • getting the content from storage (wiki) into its publishable form
    • publishable format(s)
    • translations necessary to represent works under the publishable format
  • Front-end design
    • publishable format(s)
    • identity of publication(s)

Wednesday:

  • Continue to work on Tuesday prototypes
  • results, issues, questions
  • elaborate a proposal a simple for the continuation of the work

Reading groups

===Monday:===  

  • conflict

Tuesday:

  • the web & algorythms as a writing technologies 

Wednesday

Notes

User:Castrobot/Making It Public-Notes