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.my notebook is the place where everything is // i like to annotate in there what get stuck into my brain for one reason or another (//not all the thoughts are my exclusive property) | .my notebook is the place where everything is // i like to annotate in there what get stuck into my brain for one reason or another (//not all the thoughts are my exclusive property) | ||
<small>stuff that comes a bit from my thoughts and some from my paper notebook, but in a timeline order to keep everything organised.., my real researchlog is somewhere else...............</small> | |||
== 19.09.22 == | |||
I am starting a new page on my wiki to start the new year being sure everything i'm doing will be documented and not forgotten.. my brain is like a broken sponge sometimes | I am starting a new page on my wiki to start the new year being sure everything i'm doing will be documented and not forgotten.. my brain is like a broken sponge sometimes | ||
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Someone said (Brendan Howell): our collective work is having new ideas to find better alternatives to th(e ma)instream ways that shut down every imagination chance, they offer the “best” way. Do it in a different way. + "Thus, throughout, I demonstrate how a certain thread of experimental poetry has always been engaged with questioning the media by which it is made and through which it is consumed” [Lori emerson - interfaces] —> the medium is the message (mcluhan) | Someone said (Brendan Howell): our collective work is having new ideas to find better alternatives to th(e ma)instream ways that shut down every imagination chance, they offer the “best” way. Do it in a different way. + "Thus, throughout, I demonstrate how a certain thread of experimental poetry has always been engaged with questioning the media by which it is made and through which it is consumed” [Lori emerson - interfaces] —> the medium is the message (mcluhan) | ||
=== what did we come up with === | |||
this is what came out as a common ground between all our thoughts: | |||
< workshops / audience participation | |||
< prototyping platforms | |||
< research on unknown stuff | |||
< how to intrude commercial practices and BREAK THEM | |||
< publishing practices | |||
< studying the intentions of a design format | |||
< questioning standards | |||
=== M&Ms sessions - ideas === | |||
When the M&Ms sessions have been described someone has to propose something for next week 26.09.22 and I have a strong need to start sharing my ideas about notebooks and see how other human beings react to it.. I need this especially if i want to organise workshops, so in the next week I will work on how this session could function in a way that it's helpful both for participants and for me and my research development. | |||
Here some ideas I got yesterday: | |||
Two by two in pairs, the notebook is mutually analyzed | |||
The participants discuss and write down the results of the conversation on individual sheets - >> write questions (at least three) and try to answer them on a piece of paper | |||
Notebook with tape where I attach all the single sheets together of all the workshops that I will do and in the end I will have a nice folder | |||
Experimenting is sometimes hyperbole and exacerbating a concept so it also means being able to create a notebook that is no longer functional but concretely describes the meaning of the desire or need | |||
The result of the workshop is the analysis of what the participants want, the comparison with each other, exchange information, think imagine experimenting with the limit of paper. How can this limit be disrupted? --> kim talked about disrupting standard formats! | |||
=== Thesis/Grad project - ideas === | |||
Create a temporal archive: what happens if I put everything (notebooks) together for a while? And then what to do with them? | |||
Create an xpub notebook archive for consultation | |||
Interpretation and comparison of annotation on the same content | |||
== 20.09.22 == | |||
Talked with Michael about next year and looked at old publications.. | |||
I liked: the work by Loredana Bontempi on Ddump, recycling in the digital context because it talks about what can come out from what has been erased on laptops and made me think how can I research why some notes become useless? can they be recycled? I also thought about recycled translations at some point last year | |||
[[File:First notebook kit.jpg|right|frameless]] | |||
Plus, today I delivered to Supi the first ''notebook kit: An adjustable and editable notebook with included tape and papers for continuation'' | |||
The idea is that this type of notebooks allows the user to build it up easily as their needs come over and adjusting and editing while using it and not being forced to stay in a standardised area for standardised notebook users. | |||
=== M&Ms sessions - ideas === | |||
Write an example list of needs that I have, so participants can understand better what is this about: a notebook where to write my thoughts (need to be small and available at all times), a notebook with a drawing section, for uni&research notetaking, plus additional random topics like ideas or bills counts..etc --> how do i include all of this in one notebook? | |||
Present Supi's case (ask if she's up for it) | |||
=== Thesis/Grad project - ideas === | |||
The thesis will be a modular notebook where the reader can move inside [or that the reader can build by themselves] from place to place, reconnecting content. | |||
== 21.09.22 == | |||
Made a prototype for chae (''a multicolumned notebook:'' ''could we fold it more?)'' | |||
Officially opened the ''notebooks (temporary) archive''<gallery> | |||
File:Archive 01.jpg | |||
File:Multicolumnednotebook (1).jpg | |||
File:Multicolumnednotebook .jpg | |||
File:Multicolumnednotebook (2).jpg | |||
</gallery> | |||
=== M&Ms sessions - ideas === | |||
Trying to figure out M&Ms session.. | |||
As it's an explorative session, it's mostly going to be me asking them to react to my questions | |||
I want them to start reasoning.. can we also fold paper? | |||
ask to fold a piece of paper, or to keep it in their hands during the session and start reasoning on it | |||
print questions on little cards? | |||
talk in couples? or all together? | |||
last question is about "what to do with what's left" that will lead to chae's session | |||
'''to do:''' | |||
<print questions on cards to be spread on the table | |||
<selection of paper to be spread on the table to be picked at the beginning | |||
'''plan:''' | |||
[throw both cards and papers on the table] | |||
Hello, this is me | |||
.idea workshop described | |||
.pick a piece of paper, ask to fold, or to keep it in their hands during the session and start reasoning on it, on its spaciality | |||
.ask to pick some questions from the table and start discussing together, everyone can say their opinion on one or more questions | |||
.last question is about "what to do with what's left" that will lead to chae's session | |||
== 22.09.22 == | |||
graduate seminarrrr | |||
we're presenting each other's works | |||
=== result of interview 01 === | |||
<nowiki>#</nowiki>2 (20min-) | |||
Interviewee EMMA | |||
Interviewer GERSANDE | |||
Note-taking LUCA | |||
G: can you maybe summarise for us again what is your interest in diaries sketchbooks and notes | |||
E: first actually the first reason why I started to think about that is because I felt a bit compassionate about stuff that’s not taken into consideration, started to reason how notebooks and diaries are a different think, notebooks most of the ime are this temporal space where people write things on and use them to learn things in the moment and throw it away, whereas diaries are more so a description of yourself and your thoughts. They already started to make diaries archives, but never heard what to do with old unused notebooks. The way we take notes comes from characteristic of out person, cultural, social. | |||
The reason why I am interested in notebooks is because of culture studies swell as from a practical point of view, finds it weird that every person writes in the same way with the same device and it doesn’t make sense because we are all different and need different methods to engage with a piece of paper, annotate things, remember things, learn things. Not every is one fit. | |||
G: are you interested in prototyping new mediums … or studying old ones | |||
E; the first step I would like to take is to create explorative sessions for people to start on what media they are using, they really go along together because I really want to make new prototypes, have already been making them. To be able to teach people to make them themselves, put them in a situation of resigning and creating for yourself. | |||
G: how would you go around | |||
E: explorative sessions, could be called workshops, don’t know about answers just have a lot of questions, sessions as a moment for people to answer my own questions to understand their individual needs to start to create a new way of notebook for them. | |||
G: what will you hope this will achieve | |||
E: I think I already achieved something, already talked with some people about it, quite niche takes with people about it who had thoughts but were still using standardised notebooks but through questions and talking looked at other possibilities of creating or prototyping new ways. Creating a reaction in people by talking about it. Could also go really bad because nobody gives a shit about it and everybody could be happy with their basic A5 | |||
G: for you it is also about making it exciting right ?> | |||
E: I am passionate about this and people like to talk about themselves and their needs, anyways if this doesn’t really work, as a project idea, the other part of this interest is what to do with what is left. So I thought about an archive research/project maybe using the workshops as methodologies to gather information and meet and talk with people about these topics. Putting them in an already started archive but not knowing what will happen afterwards as this collection of notebooks may as well not fit together. What are ways for notebooks like this to survive , there has to be something to be done. | |||
With cultural analysis it could be you and me in a room and both of us are taking notes of the same lecture its gonna be two different points of view on the same thing and this could open up on other ideas. | |||
G: you already had the already existing notebooks and what they mean / making notebooks up to peoples ends / case study of comparing notes in a certain context/ can you talk about this comparing notes ? You could possibly build up an archive of notes that are taken by different people at the same time/ lectures | |||
E: starting point of notes from different people on pub lectures | |||
G: we where talking about the overproduction of media the other day, if you think about it 20 people in the same class take notes on the same shit and have 20 notebooks filled with the same stuff. Weird. We take a giant amount of photographs of the same things over and over, just something interesting. I kind of made me think about subjectivities and point of view onto things actually the same thing is gonna be different for everyone because of the expression of myself and my way of looking at t things . | |||
G: do you wanna share your vision of this to others | |||
E: no I don’t know I don’t wanna put myself anywhere, want to be a mediator, archivist, analyst | |||
Would like to have people reacting to this to not have myself be the subject of this research | |||
G: are you always researching along of people eor is there also individual research | |||
E: deifntily also individual research for example for the thesis because gonna need all the information to have grounds for a project with meaning and sense. | |||
G: how do relate this to what has been your practice so far? | |||
E: actually started to make recycled notebooks during my bachelor already, in that cause it was mostly about recycling materials and reusing materials to make notebooks and I really like to use like trash to make notebooks and then the idea of I mean I’ve seen so many super cute like notebooks that can be trashy that I am tired of them and also heard a lot of people feeling guilty in using nice notebooks and trashy notebooks are therefore better for people because they get used. | |||
Always been interested in the materials of objects and their touch and on modularity and how to build up things together and again its really a lot related with suvbjectivicviy the fact that even a publication you can make yours in a way that every person that uses it can react in their own ways, so I I think its a lot about finding a place for everything and disrupt known formats and ideas | |||
G: not interest in other forms of note taking ie phone | |||
E: taken into consideration, why do they prefer it, how is memory a part of note taking, that’s all really like a personally thing, and I think that the digital part is interesting and I thought about a notebook that can move like a nomadic pupbilicatn and can move through different mediums and transform and morph through other mediums. Moving from one media to the other and then because of obviously the digital thing can offer you something I dot want to, the discussion about the paper is dead and all is always the same it all goes along together, if its gonna come Its gonna come. | |||
G: d you have like a physical outcome in mind, physical can be digital or material or is it about proposing methodologies ? What’s the end goal | |||
E: artist in exhibition: adopting your research to a human size, so that she just puts the book there and looks at people interaction, observing. | |||
I though for example with an archive It would be nice to see what people can actually do with it how people react to it instead of me deciding or showing it, I thought about an exhibition about archives but obviously the way I am gonna show this archive is gonna be importatnbt not just gonna be there and stuff. Its about understanding what people can do with these things . | |||
G: do you want to add anything | |||
E: I mean I think its gonna either an exhibition or a participative exhibition/workshops leading to a distributive practice- pushing to people to think and react. | |||
--->talk also with people that don't take notes | |||
== 26.09.22 == | |||
=== M&Ms session and results ... === | |||
https://pad.xpub.nl/p/XPUB2-Mondays-2 | |||
[[File:M&Ms_results.jpg|frameless]] [[File:M&Ms notebooks.jpg|frameless]] | |||
==== references ==== | |||
[[Politics of Craft|https://pzwiki.wdka.nl/mediadesign/Politics_of_Craft]] | |||
<nowiki>https://www.artistsandhackers.org/Community-Memory</nowiki> | |||
<nowiki>https://computerhistory.org/blog/community-memory-precedents-in-social-media-and-movements/</nowiki> | |||
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zettelkasten | |||
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palimpsest | |||
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud | |||
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottom's_Dream | |||
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folio | |||
http://georgemaciunas.com/essays-2/improving-education-in-the-world-based-on-maciunas-knowledge-management-and-learning-machine-system-by-astrit-schmidt-burkhardt/ | |||
Roland Brothers around notula and nota | |||
=== prototyping === | |||
focus group session on servers: https://pad.xpub.nl/p/hosting-and-serving | |||
=== Thesis/Grad project - ideas === | |||
notebook making as craft // craftmanship is made out of everything it is surrounded by: the abilities you need to create, the tools you use, the time of creation... | |||
how to make your personal archive of memory? self-categorisation, for different reasons//archeological pieces | |||
collective notetaking on paper//physical etherpad | |||
memory extension | |||
=== to do list === | |||
make a shell notebook | |||
think about a modular notebook --> where i can find everything in categories (create categories) to start from every point color [separation & classification] | |||
read references | |||
study notes: a collector for who take scattered notes | |||
think about collective notebook for this year | |||
== 29.09.22 == | |||
today we're working on the project proposal | |||
draft done, presented hackpack, to be done: hackpack, annotated bibliography, send by email the proposal | |||
=== hackpack presentation notes === | |||
notebook | |||
prototype | |||
play with pages to have more space and connections | |||
modularity, structure vs playfulness, mess and inspiration | |||
analyzing and researching other peoples notebook / needs / limits | |||
modular notebook kit | |||
test cases, different needs | |||
everyone is different, many things / ideas thoughts on the notebook and note taking | |||
more confusing for the practical project, the thesis part is a bit more clear | |||
instructions, conceptual art, sol lewitt, unknown outcomes | |||
distributive work | |||
=== conversations on notebooks... === | |||
supi presented me some updates on the use of notebooks she's doing. First of all Supi noticed how much a different tool/pen has a different result on her way of working/drawing/thinking, how much it makes a difference in the act of playing with the use of the pen (the way you interact with the pen, an object that teaches her through the act of drawing - '''notebooks as discovery space'''). In this case, paper has a substantial impact on the results, so that often pen and paper goes together. Supi has started with a common (basical structure) notebook, then moving to other prototypes. One that she made herself (and to which i contributed with a simple rubber band to avoid the paper from breaking), in which she's using photocopies paper (more simple it is, the least guilty the user will feel while using it) and a 0.38 Muji pen. This type of notebook is giving Supi more space for organisation (or mess) but especially, it's creating new and unexpected connection between the content of the pages. At the same time, a few weeks ago I delivered supi the notebook kit: seems like it's going on but needs more time to try out the structure. | |||
== 30.09.22 == | |||
=== prototype ideas === | |||
[[File:Annotation scans (2).jpg|left|frameless]] | |||
some new ideas on how to play with the structure of the notebook.. | |||
[left page] Thought about the fact that the limit of binding is that there's no space for easy customisation or add-ons after it's closed at the beginning. so instead of the prototype of the ''[notebook kit: An adjustable and editable notebook with included tape and papers for continuation],'' where i felt there was too little rigid structure and the user could feel too lost, i imagined to use the same technique starting from a bound one [name: ''the infinite notebook]''. At the same time, this opens an option for loose sheets that through the use of glued tape can be attached as plain paper to the loose ones. It is bound, but free to move: the user is also able to cut out pages, re-position but also keep some they care about. | |||
[bottom right page] the second idea instead works more on the concept of modularity: reconnect content between the three sections, making possible to have an overview of content even when the space on the column is finished. By choosing a specific method (that could be colours, page number, or even a personal one created on the go) it should become intuitive to move in the space of ''the triad notebook.'' The notebook could also be shared for multiple uses, maybe using every row differently. The question is if i am obliged to use a spiral ring or a copta could also work? need to try out | |||
Recycle notebooks paper to create new notebooks: check paper making | |||
== 03.10.22 == | |||
M&Ms by kamo and supi: ''learning through annotation..'' | |||
=== ideas === | |||
''time-specific writing'' [erica said]= writing that makes sense only in the moment you wrote it -- question: '''who do you write for?''' | |||
==== '''Leezsaal public moment''' ==== | |||
(a) put an archive and observe people: how do I document it? [ask for permission from notebooks' donators] | |||
(b) active play time with paper (but i feel like i'm not very ready now for this) | |||
==== '''Digital prototype''' ==== | |||
use digital tools to transcribe (even uncorrectely) and re-interpretate texts, create new texts, find a new space for forgotten notes. | |||
(a) to play around with forgotten texts: upload the picture of a notebook, get a transcription/scan of both texts and images and be able to mix it, or idk what | |||
(b) work on a translation tool = what is lost and what is kept when scanning documents [little experiment below] | |||
scan as translation tool --> scanprintscanprintscanprintscanprintscanprint<gallery> | |||
File:Annotation scans (1).jpg | |||
File:Annotation scans (2).jpg | |||
File:Annotation scans (3).jpg | |||
File:Annotation scans (4).jpg | |||
File:Annotation scans (5).jpg | |||
</gallery> | |||
== 04.10.22 == | |||
ceramic station mould making<gallery> | |||
File:Feet01.jpg | |||
File:Feet02.jpg | |||
File:Feetmould.jpg | |||
</gallery> | |||
== 05.10.22 == | |||
workshop at RATS with BB from Amsterdam | |||
== 10.10.22 == | |||
Invitation to Leeszaal event on 17th October | |||
== 11.10.22 == | |||
ceramics station glazing | |||
[[File:Instructions 01.jpg|right|frameless]] | |||
proposal draft: [[User:FLEM/Graduationprojectproposaldraft]] | |||
made a instructions kit for notebooks idea -------------------------> | |||
talk with manetta | |||
slowing down the world is a need I have. Can you make a notebook that slows you down? --> from M&Ms "smoothest paper to prevent myself from hesitating because of no friction" = friction slows down | |||
Try to make notebooks for other things | |||
If i don't want to standardise I should'n do it with what i propose to people, having more options doesn't mean i am not categorising | |||
--->another need I have is not to categorise people, not to put people into boxes, remember we are all different | |||
what are the limits on things? how can they be different? | |||
start formulating questions | |||
I don't want to tell people what to do/how to annotate | |||
make notebooks for other needs | |||
little kits --> not for specific people, but for specific needs | |||
speak to myself through the question i have | |||
questions in relation to objects | |||
what are the needs? | |||
memory device --> new questions could come out | |||
how to make notes applied to external situations? | |||
START WITH THE QUESTION: how to make a notebook for? the notebook should think along with the question i want to ask | |||
'''start with the question first, then create''' | |||
Memory Practices in the Sciences - Geoffrey C. Bowker | |||
Vannevar Bush - As We May Think | |||
== 12.10.22 == | |||
Proposal for a [[User:FLEM/Collective-care notebook|collective-care notebook]]. | |||
Analysis of the first notebook kit from needs point of view: this notebook was made out of the need of space and freedom, no restrictions but an open and accessible interface that allows the user to build the notebook based on the momentary need that comes out while using it. This notebook answered the question of: ''How to make a notebook that can give the user the possibility to to build the notebook based on the momentary need that comes out while using it?'' | |||
research on standardisation and categorisation? | |||
how to avoid categorisation of individuals through notebooks? notebooks as a lens into humans' brains, why someone needs to visualise, to organise, to reason, to focus, to extract themselves? WE ARE DIFFERENT | |||
=== ideas === | |||
how to make a notebook that helps not to forget the notebook? need to remember to remember | |||
how to make a notebook to experience the world? | |||
how to make a notebook to protect yourself from the outside? need for personal space | |||
how to make a notebook that exaggerate the scattered and the chaos? need for new inputs out of the mess | |||
how to make a notebook that is easy to navigate? | |||
how to make a notebook to collect scattered notes? | |||
how to make a notebook as an act of rebellion? | |||
how to make a notebook that can travel? notebookcrossing (?) | |||
== 13.10.22 == | |||
Paged.js workshop | |||
== 31.10.22 == | |||
it's been a few complex weeks and I had no chance to write anything here: some discoveries on the project have been done, today Jian's explored together with us the meaning of ghost files | |||
== 18.01.22 == | |||
i moved to [[User:FLEM/2.0.0]] |
Latest revision as of 16:27, 18 January 2023
.my notebook is the place where everything is // i like to annotate in there what get stuck into my brain for one reason or another (//not all the thoughts are my exclusive property)
stuff that comes a bit from my thoughts and some from my paper notebook, but in a timeline order to keep everything organised.., my real researchlog is somewhere else...............
19.09.22
I am starting a new page on my wiki to start the new year being sure everything i'm doing will be documented and not forgotten.. my brain is like a broken sponge sometimes
We had a first prototyping class today, started to organise our thoughts around what we think we could possibly focus on for the next 10 months, this is what I summed up [from https://pad.xpub.nl/p/XPUB2-Mondays-1]
KEYWORDS: text, translation, playfulness, the sociality of text, books, libraries, distributive practice, collectivity, text, share, tools, annotation methods, modularity, anti-standardisation, reading, writing.
What is kept/lost in the process of translation/of annotation/
Create a temporal community for temporal archives and temporal (learning-together) workshops for temporal research:
The archive dil(emma): what happens to notebooks when they’re full? [see diaries archives] Create a temporal archive by collecting notes that are not being used anymore, to be seen Can this open a new life for forgotten notes?
Collection of sample notebook prototypes + Hybrid/digital prototypes: online tools to create layouts, print instructions, but also to play with forgotten texts
I want to have more, to be able to play with my notebook, to know it better. I started to reason on how, as we’ve been creating our personal tools online, we could also create our personal analogue tools. Notebooks are individual and personal objects, but they’re treated like everyone has the same need from a piece of paper.
Someone said (Brendan Howell): our collective work is having new ideas to find better alternatives to th(e ma)instream ways that shut down every imagination chance, they offer the “best” way. Do it in a different way. + "Thus, throughout, I demonstrate how a certain thread of experimental poetry has always been engaged with questioning the media by which it is made and through which it is consumed” [Lori emerson - interfaces] —> the medium is the message (mcluhan)
what did we come up with
this is what came out as a common ground between all our thoughts:
< workshops / audience participation
< prototyping platforms
< research on unknown stuff
< how to intrude commercial practices and BREAK THEM
< publishing practices
< studying the intentions of a design format
< questioning standards
M&Ms sessions - ideas
When the M&Ms sessions have been described someone has to propose something for next week 26.09.22 and I have a strong need to start sharing my ideas about notebooks and see how other human beings react to it.. I need this especially if i want to organise workshops, so in the next week I will work on how this session could function in a way that it's helpful both for participants and for me and my research development.
Here some ideas I got yesterday:
Two by two in pairs, the notebook is mutually analyzed
The participants discuss and write down the results of the conversation on individual sheets - >> write questions (at least three) and try to answer them on a piece of paper
Notebook with tape where I attach all the single sheets together of all the workshops that I will do and in the end I will have a nice folder
Experimenting is sometimes hyperbole and exacerbating a concept so it also means being able to create a notebook that is no longer functional but concretely describes the meaning of the desire or need
The result of the workshop is the analysis of what the participants want, the comparison with each other, exchange information, think imagine experimenting with the limit of paper. How can this limit be disrupted? --> kim talked about disrupting standard formats!
Thesis/Grad project - ideas
Create a temporal archive: what happens if I put everything (notebooks) together for a while? And then what to do with them?
Create an xpub notebook archive for consultation
Interpretation and comparison of annotation on the same content
20.09.22
Talked with Michael about next year and looked at old publications..
I liked: the work by Loredana Bontempi on Ddump, recycling in the digital context because it talks about what can come out from what has been erased on laptops and made me think how can I research why some notes become useless? can they be recycled? I also thought about recycled translations at some point last year
Plus, today I delivered to Supi the first notebook kit: An adjustable and editable notebook with included tape and papers for continuation
The idea is that this type of notebooks allows the user to build it up easily as their needs come over and adjusting and editing while using it and not being forced to stay in a standardised area for standardised notebook users.
M&Ms sessions - ideas
Write an example list of needs that I have, so participants can understand better what is this about: a notebook where to write my thoughts (need to be small and available at all times), a notebook with a drawing section, for uni&research notetaking, plus additional random topics like ideas or bills counts..etc --> how do i include all of this in one notebook?
Present Supi's case (ask if she's up for it)
Thesis/Grad project - ideas
The thesis will be a modular notebook where the reader can move inside [or that the reader can build by themselves] from place to place, reconnecting content.
21.09.22
Made a prototype for chae (a multicolumned notebook: could we fold it more?)
Officially opened the notebooks (temporary) archive
M&Ms sessions - ideas
Trying to figure out M&Ms session..
As it's an explorative session, it's mostly going to be me asking them to react to my questions
I want them to start reasoning.. can we also fold paper?
ask to fold a piece of paper, or to keep it in their hands during the session and start reasoning on it
print questions on little cards?
talk in couples? or all together?
last question is about "what to do with what's left" that will lead to chae's session
to do:
<print questions on cards to be spread on the table
<selection of paper to be spread on the table to be picked at the beginning
plan:
[throw both cards and papers on the table]
Hello, this is me
.idea workshop described
.pick a piece of paper, ask to fold, or to keep it in their hands during the session and start reasoning on it, on its spaciality
.ask to pick some questions from the table and start discussing together, everyone can say their opinion on one or more questions
.last question is about "what to do with what's left" that will lead to chae's session
22.09.22
graduate seminarrrr
we're presenting each other's works
result of interview 01
#2 (20min-)
Interviewee EMMA
Interviewer GERSANDE
Note-taking LUCA
G: can you maybe summarise for us again what is your interest in diaries sketchbooks and notes
E: first actually the first reason why I started to think about that is because I felt a bit compassionate about stuff that’s not taken into consideration, started to reason how notebooks and diaries are a different think, notebooks most of the ime are this temporal space where people write things on and use them to learn things in the moment and throw it away, whereas diaries are more so a description of yourself and your thoughts. They already started to make diaries archives, but never heard what to do with old unused notebooks. The way we take notes comes from characteristic of out person, cultural, social.
The reason why I am interested in notebooks is because of culture studies swell as from a practical point of view, finds it weird that every person writes in the same way with the same device and it doesn’t make sense because we are all different and need different methods to engage with a piece of paper, annotate things, remember things, learn things. Not every is one fit.
G: are you interested in prototyping new mediums … or studying old ones
E; the first step I would like to take is to create explorative sessions for people to start on what media they are using, they really go along together because I really want to make new prototypes, have already been making them. To be able to teach people to make them themselves, put them in a situation of resigning and creating for yourself.
G: how would you go around
E: explorative sessions, could be called workshops, don’t know about answers just have a lot of questions, sessions as a moment for people to answer my own questions to understand their individual needs to start to create a new way of notebook for them.
G: what will you hope this will achieve
E: I think I already achieved something, already talked with some people about it, quite niche takes with people about it who had thoughts but were still using standardised notebooks but through questions and talking looked at other possibilities of creating or prototyping new ways. Creating a reaction in people by talking about it. Could also go really bad because nobody gives a shit about it and everybody could be happy with their basic A5
G: for you it is also about making it exciting right ?>
E: I am passionate about this and people like to talk about themselves and their needs, anyways if this doesn’t really work, as a project idea, the other part of this interest is what to do with what is left. So I thought about an archive research/project maybe using the workshops as methodologies to gather information and meet and talk with people about these topics. Putting them in an already started archive but not knowing what will happen afterwards as this collection of notebooks may as well not fit together. What are ways for notebooks like this to survive , there has to be something to be done.
With cultural analysis it could be you and me in a room and both of us are taking notes of the same lecture its gonna be two different points of view on the same thing and this could open up on other ideas.
G: you already had the already existing notebooks and what they mean / making notebooks up to peoples ends / case study of comparing notes in a certain context/ can you talk about this comparing notes ? You could possibly build up an archive of notes that are taken by different people at the same time/ lectures
E: starting point of notes from different people on pub lectures
G: we where talking about the overproduction of media the other day, if you think about it 20 people in the same class take notes on the same shit and have 20 notebooks filled with the same stuff. Weird. We take a giant amount of photographs of the same things over and over, just something interesting. I kind of made me think about subjectivities and point of view onto things actually the same thing is gonna be different for everyone because of the expression of myself and my way of looking at t things .
G: do you wanna share your vision of this to others
E: no I don’t know I don’t wanna put myself anywhere, want to be a mediator, archivist, analyst
Would like to have people reacting to this to not have myself be the subject of this research
G: are you always researching along of people eor is there also individual research
E: deifntily also individual research for example for the thesis because gonna need all the information to have grounds for a project with meaning and sense.
G: how do relate this to what has been your practice so far?
E: actually started to make recycled notebooks during my bachelor already, in that cause it was mostly about recycling materials and reusing materials to make notebooks and I really like to use like trash to make notebooks and then the idea of I mean I’ve seen so many super cute like notebooks that can be trashy that I am tired of them and also heard a lot of people feeling guilty in using nice notebooks and trashy notebooks are therefore better for people because they get used.
Always been interested in the materials of objects and their touch and on modularity and how to build up things together and again its really a lot related with suvbjectivicviy the fact that even a publication you can make yours in a way that every person that uses it can react in their own ways, so I I think its a lot about finding a place for everything and disrupt known formats and ideas
G: not interest in other forms of note taking ie phone
E: taken into consideration, why do they prefer it, how is memory a part of note taking, that’s all really like a personally thing, and I think that the digital part is interesting and I thought about a notebook that can move like a nomadic pupbilicatn and can move through different mediums and transform and morph through other mediums. Moving from one media to the other and then because of obviously the digital thing can offer you something I dot want to, the discussion about the paper is dead and all is always the same it all goes along together, if its gonna come Its gonna come.
G: d you have like a physical outcome in mind, physical can be digital or material or is it about proposing methodologies ? What’s the end goal
E: artist in exhibition: adopting your research to a human size, so that she just puts the book there and looks at people interaction, observing.
I though for example with an archive It would be nice to see what people can actually do with it how people react to it instead of me deciding or showing it, I thought about an exhibition about archives but obviously the way I am gonna show this archive is gonna be importatnbt not just gonna be there and stuff. Its about understanding what people can do with these things .
G: do you want to add anything
E: I mean I think its gonna either an exhibition or a participative exhibition/workshops leading to a distributive practice- pushing to people to think and react.
--->talk also with people that don't take notes
26.09.22
M&Ms session and results ...
https://pad.xpub.nl/p/XPUB2-Mondays-2
references
https://pzwiki.wdka.nl/mediadesign/Politics_of_Craft
https://www.artistsandhackers.org/Community-Memory
https://computerhistory.org/blog/community-memory-precedents-in-social-media-and-movements/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zettelkasten
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palimpsest
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottom's_Dream
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folio
Roland Brothers around notula and nota
prototyping
focus group session on servers: https://pad.xpub.nl/p/hosting-and-serving
Thesis/Grad project - ideas
notebook making as craft // craftmanship is made out of everything it is surrounded by: the abilities you need to create, the tools you use, the time of creation...
how to make your personal archive of memory? self-categorisation, for different reasons//archeological pieces
collective notetaking on paper//physical etherpad
memory extension
to do list
make a shell notebook
think about a modular notebook --> where i can find everything in categories (create categories) to start from every point color [separation & classification]
read references
study notes: a collector for who take scattered notes
think about collective notebook for this year
29.09.22
today we're working on the project proposal
draft done, presented hackpack, to be done: hackpack, annotated bibliography, send by email the proposal
hackpack presentation notes
notebook
prototype
play with pages to have more space and connections
modularity, structure vs playfulness, mess and inspiration
analyzing and researching other peoples notebook / needs / limits
modular notebook kit
test cases, different needs
everyone is different, many things / ideas thoughts on the notebook and note taking
more confusing for the practical project, the thesis part is a bit more clear
instructions, conceptual art, sol lewitt, unknown outcomes
distributive work
conversations on notebooks...
supi presented me some updates on the use of notebooks she's doing. First of all Supi noticed how much a different tool/pen has a different result on her way of working/drawing/thinking, how much it makes a difference in the act of playing with the use of the pen (the way you interact with the pen, an object that teaches her through the act of drawing - notebooks as discovery space). In this case, paper has a substantial impact on the results, so that often pen and paper goes together. Supi has started with a common (basical structure) notebook, then moving to other prototypes. One that she made herself (and to which i contributed with a simple rubber band to avoid the paper from breaking), in which she's using photocopies paper (more simple it is, the least guilty the user will feel while using it) and a 0.38 Muji pen. This type of notebook is giving Supi more space for organisation (or mess) but especially, it's creating new and unexpected connection between the content of the pages. At the same time, a few weeks ago I delivered supi the notebook kit: seems like it's going on but needs more time to try out the structure.
30.09.22
prototype ideas
some new ideas on how to play with the structure of the notebook..
[left page] Thought about the fact that the limit of binding is that there's no space for easy customisation or add-ons after it's closed at the beginning. so instead of the prototype of the [notebook kit: An adjustable and editable notebook with included tape and papers for continuation], where i felt there was too little rigid structure and the user could feel too lost, i imagined to use the same technique starting from a bound one [name: the infinite notebook]. At the same time, this opens an option for loose sheets that through the use of glued tape can be attached as plain paper to the loose ones. It is bound, but free to move: the user is also able to cut out pages, re-position but also keep some they care about.
[bottom right page] the second idea instead works more on the concept of modularity: reconnect content between the three sections, making possible to have an overview of content even when the space on the column is finished. By choosing a specific method (that could be colours, page number, or even a personal one created on the go) it should become intuitive to move in the space of the triad notebook. The notebook could also be shared for multiple uses, maybe using every row differently. The question is if i am obliged to use a spiral ring or a copta could also work? need to try out
Recycle notebooks paper to create new notebooks: check paper making
03.10.22
M&Ms by kamo and supi: learning through annotation..
ideas
time-specific writing [erica said]= writing that makes sense only in the moment you wrote it -- question: who do you write for?
Leezsaal public moment
(a) put an archive and observe people: how do I document it? [ask for permission from notebooks' donators]
(b) active play time with paper (but i feel like i'm not very ready now for this)
Digital prototype
use digital tools to transcribe (even uncorrectely) and re-interpretate texts, create new texts, find a new space for forgotten notes.
(a) to play around with forgotten texts: upload the picture of a notebook, get a transcription/scan of both texts and images and be able to mix it, or idk what
(b) work on a translation tool = what is lost and what is kept when scanning documents [little experiment below]
scan as translation tool --> scanprintscanprintscanprintscanprintscanprint
04.10.22
ceramic station mould making
05.10.22
workshop at RATS with BB from Amsterdam
10.10.22
Invitation to Leeszaal event on 17th October
11.10.22
ceramics station glazing
proposal draft: User:FLEM/Graduationprojectproposaldraft
made a instructions kit for notebooks idea ------------------------->
talk with manetta
slowing down the world is a need I have. Can you make a notebook that slows you down? --> from M&Ms "smoothest paper to prevent myself from hesitating because of no friction" = friction slows down
Try to make notebooks for other things
If i don't want to standardise I should'n do it with what i propose to people, having more options doesn't mean i am not categorising
--->another need I have is not to categorise people, not to put people into boxes, remember we are all different
what are the limits on things? how can they be different?
start formulating questions
I don't want to tell people what to do/how to annotate
make notebooks for other needs
little kits --> not for specific people, but for specific needs
speak to myself through the question i have
questions in relation to objects
what are the needs?
memory device --> new questions could come out
how to make notes applied to external situations?
START WITH THE QUESTION: how to make a notebook for? the notebook should think along with the question i want to ask
start with the question first, then create
Memory Practices in the Sciences - Geoffrey C. Bowker
Vannevar Bush - As We May Think
12.10.22
Proposal for a collective-care notebook.
Analysis of the first notebook kit from needs point of view: this notebook was made out of the need of space and freedom, no restrictions but an open and accessible interface that allows the user to build the notebook based on the momentary need that comes out while using it. This notebook answered the question of: How to make a notebook that can give the user the possibility to to build the notebook based on the momentary need that comes out while using it?
research on standardisation and categorisation?
how to avoid categorisation of individuals through notebooks? notebooks as a lens into humans' brains, why someone needs to visualise, to organise, to reason, to focus, to extract themselves? WE ARE DIFFERENT
ideas
how to make a notebook that helps not to forget the notebook? need to remember to remember
how to make a notebook to experience the world?
how to make a notebook to protect yourself from the outside? need for personal space
how to make a notebook that exaggerate the scattered and the chaos? need for new inputs out of the mess
how to make a notebook that is easy to navigate?
how to make a notebook to collect scattered notes?
how to make a notebook as an act of rebellion?
how to make a notebook that can travel? notebookcrossing (?)
13.10.22
Paged.js workshop
31.10.22
it's been a few complex weeks and I had no chance to write anything here: some discoveries on the project have been done, today Jian's explored together with us the meaning of ghost files
18.01.22
i moved to User:FLEM/2.0.0