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'''Dmytri Kleiner''' | '''Dmytri Kleiner''' | ||
*Telekommunisten.net | *Telekommunisten.net | ||
*free systems vs capitalism | *free systems vs capitalism | ||
*language of political economy | *language of political economy | ||
*relations and interconnections | *relations and interconnections | ||
*both economies and networks are composed of relations | *both economies and networks are composed of relations | ||
*relations in network define -> topology | *relations in network define -> topology | ||
*relations in an economy define -> mode of production | *relations in an economy define -> mode of production | ||
*star vs mesh network | *star vs mesh network | ||
*communism vs capitalism | *communism vs capitalism | ||
*capitalists love star networks | they hate mesh networks | *capitalists love star networks | they hate mesh networks | ||
*the internet was not created by capitalists -> universities, NGOs, hobbyists and the military | *the internet was not created by capitalists -> universities, NGOs, hobbyists and the military | ||
*capitalists created online services -> client-server systems, that rely on star networks | *capitalists created online services -> client-server systems, that rely on star networks | ||
*and then stuff like email, usenet, IRC, etc. which depends on mesh topology | *and then stuff like email, usenet, IRC, etc. which depends on mesh topology | ||
*communism loves a mesh network | *communism loves a mesh network | ||
*eash ISP earns income independantly by being part of a common platform not owned by anyone | *eash ISP earns income independantly by being part of a common platform not owned by anyone | ||
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*capitalists were not happy about the internet | *capitalists were not happy about the internet | ||
*they just bought everything | *they just bought everything | ||
*dot com boom | *dot com boom | ||
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*communism must be driven from the network | *communism must be driven from the network | ||
*web 2.0 | *web 2.0 | ||
*the web is a client-server platform | *the web is a client-server platform | ||
*criminalization of P2P | *criminalization of P2P | ||
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*it is contraband. used by thieves and pirates | *it is contraband. used by thieves and pirates | ||
*being engineered out of the internet | *being engineered out of the internet | ||
*venture capitalism | *venture capitalism | ||
*offering money against the future value of what they create | *offering money against the future value of what they create | ||
*capital will not fund P2P | *capital will not fund P2P | ||
*capitalism requires enclosure and kickbacks, it requires a star topology | *capitalism requires enclosure and kickbacks, it requires a star topology | ||
1.anti-copyright | |||
*copyright came at the same time as capitalism, a component of Bourgeois property | *copyright came at the same time as capitalism, a component of Bourgeois property | ||
2.copyleft: invasion of the bourgeoisie | |||
*the right of the consumer to become a producer | *the right of the consumer to become a producer | ||
*free software is wildly successful | *free software is wildly successful | ||
*difference between 1 and 2 : 1 is fringe, anti movement - 2 is more about intellectual property, etc. | *difference between 1 and 2 : 1 is fringe, anti movement - 2 is more about intellectual property, etc. | ||
* | *1 is not compatible with capitalism | ||
3. creative commons | |||
*boosted by the free software movement | *boosted by the free software movement | ||
*the consumer is denied the right to become a producer | *the consumer is denied the right to become a producer | ||
*copyfarleft : employs the non-commercial clause used by some creative commons licenses | *copyfarleft : employs the non-commercial clause used by some creative commons licenses | ||
Latest revision as of 21:30, 16 February 2011
Dmytri Kleiner
- Telekommunisten.net
- free systems vs capitalism
- language of political economy
- relations and interconnections
- both economies and networks are composed of relations
- relations in network define -> topology
- relations in an economy define -> mode of production
- star vs mesh network
- communism vs capitalism
- capitalists love star networks | they hate mesh networks
- the internet was not created by capitalists -> universities, NGOs, hobbyists and the military
- capitalists created online services -> client-server systems, that rely on star networks
- and then stuff like email, usenet, IRC, etc. which depends on mesh topology
- communism loves a mesh network
- eash ISP earns income independantly by being part of a common platform not owned by anyone
1
- capitalists were not happy about the internet
- they just bought everything
- dot com boom
2
- communism must be driven from the network
- web 2.0
- the web is a client-server platform
- criminalization of P2P
- the core innovation of the internet was P2P
- it is contraband. used by thieves and pirates
- being engineered out of the internet
- venture capitalism
- offering money against the future value of what they create
- capital will not fund P2P
- capitalism requires enclosure and kickbacks, it requires a star topology
1.anti-copyright
- copyright came at the same time as capitalism, a component of Bourgeois property
2.copyleft: invasion of the bourgeoisie
- the right of the consumer to become a producer
- free software is wildly successful
- difference between 1 and 2 : 1 is fringe, anti movement - 2 is more about intellectual property, etc.
- 1 is not compatible with capitalism
3. creative commons
- boosted by the free software movement
- the consumer is denied the right to become a producer
- copyfarleft : employs the non-commercial clause used by some creative commons licenses
- but adds a limitation to the clause
- free culture cannot exist without a free society
- cultural workers must be self-organized and work towards a free society in solidarity with all workers