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* a story about the past which is still in the present in you - think of the implications of the choices you made - think about gestures that belong to that or spaces - tell the story you want to tell - why is the ghost a hungry host hostage parasite? What are the implications?
* a story about the past which is still in the present in you - think of the implications of the choices you made - think about gestures that belong to that or spaces - tell the story you want to tell - why is the ghost a hungry host hostage parasite? What are the implications?
* The mosque and the cellar is really so much more compelling - the stuff relating to crypto Jews that really use your voice
* The mosque and the cellar is really so much more compelling - the stuff relating to crypto Jews that really use your voice
=== 13.02.23 ===
Group mentor session, Cihad
* 'The Artist' is a bit of a loaded term - consider using Host-Parasite.
* Also more manageable having a duality as opposied to a trinity
* you are trying to connect with ancestry - the questions/journey might be more interesting than the answers
* W - Emilie Jacir - works with letters as a form describing checkpoint in Bethlehem

Revision as of 14:55, 13 February 2023

PRACTICAL

KEY THEMES

  • Hybridity
  • Tribalism
  • Surveillance (hyper visibility)
  • Predator/Prey relationships

FORMAT

cooking interview / fieldwork

  • sound divorced from image

the host / the host

  • the host - director cooking stew for speculative scenes

the guests / the parasites

  • specualtive scenes - talk (of the host) from behind the camera


which camera lens?

  • Is it a combination of camera approaches?
  • Is it a simple handheld DV camera? This could help overlap with Paranormal movies (like Blair Witch) lending it a certain authenticity
  • A wide lens for the indoor scenes and a more narrow lens for the outdoors? Or go even wider with the outdoors to reference surveillance.


RESEARCH IDEAS

  • food related internet conspiracies


RECEE

  • greenhouses south of rotterdam
  • Het Nieuwe Oost Cemetery
  • Synagogue in Bourtange
  • Mevalana Mosque (name after Turkish for Rumi)
  • Mescidi Aksa Mosque, Den Haag (very near gallery 1646)

INTERVIEWS

Salimah Gablan, Coffee Meeting, 02.12.22

Yaakov Gablan (father)

  • A painter who moved from Iraq, to Israel, to the Netherlands.
  • Looking for connection in older life he went to Schak, a chess cafe, enjoying the games and community. The men from the Schak came to his funeral.
  • Favourite Iraqi dishes are Kubba Shorba (meat, onion, herbs, spices) and Torshi (pickled vegatables). Also mention of a lebanese fglat bread
  • The funeral took place in November 2022. Yaakov was wrapped in a linen showl. Olive branches garnished his body. His paintings decorated the space. Light flooded in through the open doors.
  • his children were important to him than his own sibligs who he'd had various disputes with, usually in relation to money.
  • He is buried in Het Niuwe Oost Cemetery - specifically wanted to be buried in a public cemetery - but his wife Christine (Swiss Dutch) wanted him to be buried in a Jewish cemetery.

Jewish diaspora

  • tribalism - the idiosyncracy of each and every jewish family and custom
  • embodied otherness - it's something you can't get away from - it carries through inter-generational - even Salimah's daughters are considered other, 'where are you from?'

Resources

  • R - The Hadji, by Leon Unis (Jewish Arab symbiosis)
  • R - The Jewish Bride, by Judith Neurick (the disappearing history of iraq)
  • R - The Story of the Jews, by Simon Schama / Russel Shortall

TUTORIALS

07.02.23

Rosella

  • is there anough depth in the interviews? maybe reveal more or go deeper
  • could become a larger patchwork
  • could be there interviews pull you out of the fictional elements
  • meeting around the table - a group encounter - where all the pieces come together
  • the interviews certainly feel like real life
  • interesting interaction between the enacted and documentary - you wonder about the connections between the elements - the interviews are so focused on the narration and the fiction is a more spatial/visual representation + but there is connective tissue
  • W - Pere Portabella 'El Sopar' (1974) - collective discussion, political action/activism, people meeting, preparing dinner, and eating - the context around the political oppression
  • what is the most simple thread - write a scene which concretely depicts this
  • more intentionally pushing communicating the relationship between artist-host-parasite
  • now you have ingredients but you need the recipe - reduce the ingredients
  • the dinner table - a place of universal connection - relatable from different backgrounds - hints at this with G-Zi - now you can expand to have an ensemble cast -
  • the interviews/vignettes could be establishing shots of the guests at the dinner
  • Bela Tarr - https://www.eyefilm.nl/nl/programma/bela-tarr/125976 - film about banquet with homeless people -
  • part of the banquet is the duration of the event -
  • Bunuel - discreet charm of b - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Discreet_Charm_of_the_Bourgeoisie - (1973) so might have influenced
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyoAiP4mGhE&ab_channel=FilmStruck
  • how to render visual considerations around 'hungry host' - how to maintain the subtlety of the themes between multiple characters - explaining big themes through simple small talk -
  • believability - project is closer to reality so absurdism can be relative

Sabine

  • who hosts that feast?
  • the outsider - is the guest the native
  • Peaky Blinder - unwanted guest - episode - shifts the atmosphere - tvtropes.com
  • The Party (2017) dir. Sally Potter
  • Festen, a celebration
  • Eraserhead, dinner scene
  • casting - who would the characters be? perhaps people trained in improv - a set of hidden games that can lubricate the social encounter - punctuated by actual happenings
  • interviews - a hunger for more details - Isabelle interview somehow harder to decipher + confusion over what is the context, why is it important for me, it's very self-enclosed, how does this connect with the rest of it -
  • could you host these other artists in your conversation?
  • do they speak about the host? Do they know who the party's for? what's their position? Is it designed like a game? Or more free-flow?
  • do all the guests have diasporic backgrounds?
  • how do these positionalities come

Barend

  • cinematography - nice - geometrically c
  • feedback loop in connection with the chanting
  • the interviews feel surface level -
  • Salimah - hospitality/art connection drawn but not explained
  • Isabelle - cooking/hosting, less poetic somehow more kitchen sink, less-stylized
  • the dialogue is not reaching a depth
  • MEVLANA MOSQUE - art feeding off it feedback loop, a somewhat existential/spiritual thread, geometrically composed (precise) - fit with the chanting - connects with the chanting - nicely choreographed - Aitan is outsider in the space, you are an alien in that space
  • the mosque and the basement -
  • W - The Sandman written by Neil Gaman - an episode with a muse who'se been caughy by a writer, he captures the muse
  • W - Flux Gourmet
  • PERFORMATIVE -
  • INTERVIEWS - portraits, non-assuming, reportage (like news item),
  • Is it important for you to be a character in this? How important is it to translate this story?
  • W - IDFA - All You See dir. Iranian filmmaker
  • important to find subjects with same stakes
  • If it is about you then maybe you should be a character. Own your story.

Ine

  • Cinematorgaphy - nice images, but what are we looking at? Or why are we looking at it?
  • We get to know two figures
  • the mantra - the artsit, the host, the parasite - it's a little bit heavy and a conflicting theme - the parasite feeding off of another organsim - seems an attempt at unity
  • Interview 1, Salimah - gentle and genuine - the camera is generous to her but we don't see the painting - feeding/eating lightly touched upon -
  • Interview 2, Isabelle - curacao, memory - dancing in the kitchen - again we don't see what she's doing - intellectualise a lot in order to connect the images
  • The Parasite - The stairs to the parasite - very gripping - seems to suggest there's a recipient of the food - does the person have a disease, a pest, a hostage, many connotations - this gest is so suggestive - food exchange caring, hospitable, tells more about love than talking about it - the gestures are meaningful - very gripping - these gestures are becoming symbols - a very relatable 'real' space
  • Mevlana - a continuation with the stairs - not allowed to see much of this figure - by showing the figure as a shadow it creates a story - hiding/revealing - public space but inside/outside -
  • hungry host = angry host /
  • kammer spiel (German) - chamber play -
  • maybe there are more gestures that can express the idea you're trying to translate - the idea of hiding, and shadow
  • a story about the past which is still in the present in you - think of the implications of the choices you made - think about gestures that belong to that or spaces - tell the story you want to tell - why is the ghost a hungry host hostage parasite? What are the implications?
  • The mosque and the cellar is really so much more compelling - the stuff relating to crypto Jews that really use your voice

13.02.23

Group mentor session, Cihad

  • 'The Artist' is a bit of a loaded term - consider using Host-Parasite.
  • Also more manageable having a duality as opposied to a trinity
  • you are trying to connect with ancestry - the questions/journey might be more interesting than the answers
  • W - Emilie Jacir - works with letters as a form describing checkpoint in Bethlehem