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== Fretless thoughts about the SI16 process == | |||
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<li class="wip" style=" | <li class="wip" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: rgb(235, 206, 235);font-weight: bold;">WORK IN PROJESS</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">Super nice project overall</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;"> | ||
How we take care of each other, it is something new for me in the context of a | |||
collective project | collective project | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">Attention to the group's pace was something really precious.</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">Exchange of knowledge</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">Self organized workshops, something we should do more and regularly!</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">Developing software that suits us</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">Check in moments</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">A lot of meetings</li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: salmon;">A lot of meetings</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">Communication is sometimes difficult</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">We should explore more the idea of building a shared glossary</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">Even if misunderstandings sometimes lead to surpising outcomes</li> | ||
Β | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">Self directed project: nice but difficult</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">Like in the real world</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">Cristina: helped a lot during decision making</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">Cristina: super high quality contents and approaches</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">Manetta & Michael: constantly raising the level</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);"> | ||
Manetta & Michael: We arrived with some bold ideas and they replied with something even bolder | |||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | |||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 2ch;border: | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">Manetta & Michael: Helped to continously questioning industry' standards</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);"> | |||
Manetta & Michael: Super stimulating to prototype something and then they showed how to do the | |||
same thing but with a more horizontal, accessible and inclusive approach | same thing but with a more horizontal, accessible and inclusive approach | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">Really two great pedagogical tebgu πΉπΊ</li> | ||
<li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: salmon;"> | |||
really ideal. What about split in 2? | Manetta & Michael: we need more prototyping hours, or organized differently. Once in a week is not | ||
really ideal. What about split in 2 days? | |||
</li> | |||
<li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">Steve: nice writing exercises they were super helpful</li> | |||
Β | |||
<li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: salmon;"> | |||
Not read enough tho, had time only while waiting the laundry at the wasseret | |||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">And that's a pity</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);"> | ||
So 2 are the cases: or more laundries or less practical things and more reading moments | |||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">It would be helpful to organize some shared reading moments maybe</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;"> | ||
Reading session with Erica and Mitsa at the beginning. Was nice we should do it | Reading session with Erica and Mitsa at the beginning. Was nice we should do it | ||
regularly | regularly | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);"> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | During the exercise for writing the manifesto I had my headphones on listening to ? and | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | at some point I was super focused writing and I heard at the same time the music and the | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | silence in the room. It was really an ecstatic moment. | ||
</li> | |||
<li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">Clara's lecture was my fav: thank you</li> | |||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">Angeliki and Wordmord were great</li> | |||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">Danny was intresting</li> | |||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);"> | |||
Simon was intresting but the timing of the lesson totaly wrong, really hard to focus | Simon was intresting but the timing of the lesson totaly wrong, really hard to focus | ||
right after lunch & the meeting | right after lunch & the meeting | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 2ch;border: | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;"> | ||
<li class=" | Aymeric pizza session was crucial to see how and why the API could have been a | ||
<li | plural device | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | </li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">Really liked the iterative process of developβshareβadapt</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">the joy of digital DIY</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">Even if sometimes it hurt to redo everything (apparently) from scratch</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: salmon;">the pain of digital DIY</li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">Our API was something like an ecosystem: messy, exotic, vernacular</li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">And im really happy about it</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">technology as a social and shared space</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">I worked with the most of us</li> | ||
<li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: salmon;">But not with everyone</li> | |||
<li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: salmon;">The right idea landed 10 days late</li> | |||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">But it couldn't be otherwise I think</li> | |||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);"> | |||
Ideas arrive always at the right moment, what we could do while waiting it's just setup | Ideas arrive always at the right moment, what we could do while waiting it's just setup | ||
the environment | the environment | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);"> | ||
Maybe it's easier to begin and adjust the direction meanwhile, rather than being | Maybe it's easier to begin and adjust the direction meanwhile, rather than being | ||
stubborn on everything being clear and perfect from the start | stubborn on everything being clear and perfect from the start | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);"> | ||
It's true that choosing a format at the beginning could be helpful, but at the same time | It's true that choosing a format at the beginning could be helpful, but at the same time | ||
the ideal medium for something could not be chosen in advance | the ideal medium for something could not be chosen in advance | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">It's also true that constraining ourselves since the beginning it's stimulating</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">And helps to focus</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">I like how slowly we got all together to the idea of the API</li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: salmon;">Sometimes I was afraid of pushing things to much!</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">It was not easy to trust each other but really rewarding</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);"> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | Trusting each other in the process of work can also be a way to manage energies better | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | </li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">I like to rely on others for things I'm really not good at</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">But i found out is nice also for things I'm good at</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">Because in the end the result feels more shared, and with plural voices</li> | ||
Visual Identity outcomes were not really my thing at the beginning and I was | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">Sharing expertise</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);"> | |||
Visual Identity outcomes were not really my thing at the beginning and I was panicking, | |||
because I'm super conditioned by visual outcomes. | |||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">But at the end I got to like the direction and I was super happy with the result.</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);"> | ||
Even if I'm still not really sure about the text indent, doesn't it feel a bit messy in | (Even if I'm still not really sure about the text indent, doesn't it feel a bit messy in | ||
the website? | the website?) | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">We aimed super high</li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: salmon;"> | ||
There were moments in which i felt to slow down everyone because of technical issues. | |||
Sorry | |||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: salmon;">Technical issues always slow down the work</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);"> | ||
Actually this is a constant of working with technology, so not really a problem. More an | Actually this is a constant of working with technology, so not really a problem. More an | ||
epistemic thing. The borders of a project are its technical issues? Woa mr F. this is so | epistemic thing. The borders of a project are its technical issues? Woa mr F. this is so | ||
dryyy have a break pls | dryyy have a break pls | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: springgreen;">Technical issues: prompt new perspective on how to do things</li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: salmon;"> | ||
Setting up the infrastructure for the special issue at the end required a lot of time | Setting up the infrastructure for the special issue at the end required a lot of time | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">I would have preferred to focus more on the actual contents</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">Because it is true that we worked with the politics of access to our materials etc</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);"> | ||
But at the end the most of materials were left out | But at the end the most of materials were left out and this is a pity because they were | ||
super interesting things | |||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);"> | |||
We should state more clearly at the beginning how much we value the process and and the | |||
outcome | |||
</li> | |||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);"> | |||
SI16 to me was super processβoriented, and I'm totally ok with that. I think we did | |||
something really great and in a great way (and im a super demanding picky π
±itch that | |||
never settles for anything) | |||
</li> | |||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);"> | |||
But maybe someone feels bad about the result not being polished or finished or full | |||
fletched, so for the sake of everyone we should think carefully at those two aspects | |||
</li> | |||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);">btw keep in mind that there is no such thing as a finished website</li> | |||
<li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid rgb(237, 238, 243);border-color: salmon;">The fact that the school closes at 10 pm is super annoying</li> | |||
</ul> | </ul> | ||
Latest revision as of 21:17, 26 December 2021
Fretless thoughts about the SI16 process
- WORK IN PROJESS
- Super nice project overall
- How we take care of each other, it is something new for me in the context of a collective project
- Attention to the group's pace was something really precious.
- Exchange of knowledge
- Self organized workshops, something we should do more and regularly!
- Developing software that suits us
- Check in moments
- A lot of meetings
- A lot of meetings
- Communication is sometimes difficult
- We should explore more the idea of building a shared glossary
- Even if misunderstandings sometimes lead to surpising outcomes
- Self directed project: nice but difficult
- Like in the real world
- Cristina: helped a lot during decision making
- Cristina: super high quality contents and approaches
- Manetta & Michael: constantly raising the level
- Manetta & Michael: We arrived with some bold ideas and they replied with something even bolder
- Manetta & Michael: Helped to continously questioning industry' standards
- Manetta & Michael: Super stimulating to prototype something and then they showed how to do the same thing but with a more horizontal, accessible and inclusive approach
- Really two great pedagogical tebgu πΉπΊ
- Manetta & Michael: we need more prototyping hours, or organized differently. Once in a week is not really ideal. What about split in 2 days?
- Steve: nice writing exercises they were super helpful
- Not read enough tho, had time only while waiting the laundry at the wasseret
- And that's a pity
- So 2 are the cases: or more laundries or less practical things and more reading moments
- It would be helpful to organize some shared reading moments maybe
- Reading session with Erica and Mitsa at the beginning. Was nice we should do it regularly
- During the exercise for writing the manifesto I had my headphones on listening to ? and at some point I was super focused writing and I heard at the same time the music and the silence in the room. It was really an ecstatic moment.
- Clara's lecture was my fav: thank you
- Angeliki and Wordmord were great
- Danny was intresting
- Simon was intresting but the timing of the lesson totaly wrong, really hard to focus right after lunch & the meeting
- Aymeric pizza session was crucial to see how and why the API could have been a plural device
- Really liked the iterative process of developβshareβadapt
- the joy of digital DIY
- Even if sometimes it hurt to redo everything (apparently) from scratch
- the pain of digital DIY
- Our API was something like an ecosystem: messy, exotic, vernacular
- And im really happy about it
- technology as a social and shared space
- I worked with the most of us
- But not with everyone
- The right idea landed 10 days late
- But it couldn't be otherwise I think
- Ideas arrive always at the right moment, what we could do while waiting it's just setup the environment
- Maybe it's easier to begin and adjust the direction meanwhile, rather than being stubborn on everything being clear and perfect from the start
- It's true that choosing a format at the beginning could be helpful, but at the same time the ideal medium for something could not be chosen in advance
- It's also true that constraining ourselves since the beginning it's stimulating
- And helps to focus
- I like how slowly we got all together to the idea of the API
- Sometimes I was afraid of pushing things to much!
- It was not easy to trust each other but really rewarding
- Trusting each other in the process of work can also be a way to manage energies better
- I like to rely on others for things I'm really not good at
- But i found out is nice also for things I'm good at
- Because in the end the result feels more shared, and with plural voices
- Sharing expertise
- Visual Identity outcomes were not really my thing at the beginning and I was panicking, because I'm super conditioned by visual outcomes.
- But at the end I got to like the direction and I was super happy with the result.
- (Even if I'm still not really sure about the text indent, doesn't it feel a bit messy in the website?)
- We aimed super high
- There were moments in which i felt to slow down everyone because of technical issues. Sorry
- Technical issues always slow down the work
- Actually this is a constant of working with technology, so not really a problem. More an epistemic thing. The borders of a project are its technical issues? Woa mr F. this is so dryyy have a break pls
- Technical issues: prompt new perspective on how to do things
- Setting up the infrastructure for the special issue at the end required a lot of time
- I would have preferred to focus more on the actual contents
- Because it is true that we worked with the politics of access to our materials etc
- But at the end the most of materials were left out and this is a pity because they were super interesting things
- We should state more clearly at the beginning how much we value the process and and the outcome
- SI16 to me was super processβoriented, and I'm totally ok with that. I think we did something really great and in a great way (and im a super demanding picky π ±itch that never settles for anything)
- But maybe someone feels bad about the result not being polished or finished or full fletched, so for the sake of everyone we should think carefully at those two aspects
- btw keep in mind that there is no such thing as a finished website
- The fact that the school closes at 10 pm is super annoying