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<li class="wip" style=" | <li class="wip" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: plum;font-weight: bold;">WORK IN PROJESS</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">Super nice project.</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;"> | ||
I like how we take care of each other, it is something new for me in the context of a | I like how we take care of each other, it is something new for me in the context of a | ||
collective project. | collective project. | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">The attention to the group's pace was something really precious.</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">The exchange of knowledge</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">Self organized workshops, something we should do more and regularly!</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">Developing software that suits us</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">Check in moments</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">A lot of meetings</li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: tomato;">A lot of meetings</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">Communication is difficult.</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">We should explore more the idea of a shared glossary</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">Even if misunderstandings are nice sometimes and lead to unexpected outcomes</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">Self directed project: i like it, but at some point difficult</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">I mean like in the real world</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">Cristina: helped a lot during decision making</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">Cristina: super high quality contents and approaches</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">πΉ & πΊ: constantly raising the level.</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">πΉ & πΊ: Continously questioning industry' standards</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;"> | ||
πΉ & πΊ: We arrived with some grazy ideas and they replied with something even grazier | πΉ & πΊ: We arrived with some grazy ideas and they replied with something even grazier | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;"> | ||
πΉ & πΊ: Super stimulating to prototype something and then they showed how to do the | πΉ & πΊ: Super stimulating to prototype something and then they showed how to do the | ||
same thing but with a more horizontal, accessible and inclusive approach | same thing but with a more horizontal, accessible and inclusive approach | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: tomato;"> | ||
πΉ & πΊ: we need more prototyping hours, or organized differently. Once in a week is not | πΉ & πΊ: we need more prototyping hours, or organized differently. Once in a week is not | ||
really ideal. What about split in 2? | really ideal. What about split in 2? | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">Steve: nice writing exercises they were super helpful</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;"> | ||
During the excercise for writing the manifesto I had my headphones on listening to ? and | During the excercise for writing the manifesto I had my headphones on listening to ? and | ||
at some point I was super focused writing and I heard at the same time the music and the | at some point I was super focused writing and I heard at the same time the music and the | ||
silence in the room. It was really an ecstatic moment. | silence in the room. It was really an ecstatic moment. | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: tomato;">Not read enough tho, I was too much into exploring and doing things</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;"> | ||
Reading session with Erica and Mitsa at the beginning. Was nice we should do it | Reading session with Erica and Mitsa at the beginning. Was nice we should do it | ||
regularly | regularly | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">Clara's lecture was my fav: thank you</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">Angeliki and Wordmord were great</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">Danny was intresting</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;"> | ||
Simon was intresting but the timing of the lesson totaly wrong, really hard to focus | Simon was intresting but the timing of the lesson totaly wrong, really hard to focus | ||
right after lunch & the meeting | right after lunch & the meeting | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">Really liked the iterative process of developβshareβadapt things</li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: tomato;">Even if sometimes it hurt</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">the joy of digital DIY</li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: tomato;">the pain of digital DIY</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">Our API was something like an ecosystem: messy, exotic, vernacular</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">And im really happy about it</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">technology as a social and shared space</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">I worked with the most of us</li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: tomato;">But not with everyone</li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: tomato;">The right idea landed 10 days late</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">But it couldn't be otherwise I think</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;"> | ||
Ideas arrive always at the right moment, what we could do while waiting it's just setup | Ideas arrive always at the right moment, what we could do while waiting it's just setup | ||
the environment | the environment | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;"> | ||
Maybe it's easier to begin and adjust the direction meanwhile, rather than being | Maybe it's easier to begin and adjust the direction meanwhile, rather than being | ||
stubborn on everything being clear and perfect from the start | stubborn on everything being clear and perfect from the start | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;"> | ||
It's true that choosing a format at the beginning could be helpful, but at the same time | It's true that choosing a format at the beginning could be helpful, but at the same time | ||
the ideal medium for something could not be chosen in advance | the ideal medium for something could not be chosen in advance | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">It's also true that constraining ourselves since the beginning it's stimulating</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">And helps to focus</li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">I like how slowly we got all together to the idea of the API</li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: tomato;">Sometimes I was afraid of pushing things to much!</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">It was not easy to trust each other but really rewarding</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">Trusting each other in the process of work is also a way to manage energies better</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">I like to rely on others for things I'm really not good at</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">But i found out is nice also for things I'm good at</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">Because in the end the result feels more shared, and with plural voices</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">Sharing expertise</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;"> | ||
Visual Identity outcomes were not really my thing at the beginning and I was a bit | Visual Identity outcomes were not really my thing at the beginning and I was a bit | ||
panicking, because I'm super sensible and conditioned by visual outcomes. | panicking, because I'm super sensible and conditioned by visual outcomes. | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">But at the end I got to like the direction and I was super happy with the result.</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;"> | ||
Even if I'm still not really sure about the text indent, doesn't it feel a bit messy in | Even if I'm still not really sure about the text indent, doesn't it feel a bit messy in | ||
the website? | the website? | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">We aimed super high</li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: tomato;"> | ||
But there were moments in which i felt to slow down everyone because of technical | But there were moments in which i felt to slow down everyone because of technical | ||
issues. Sorry | issues. Sorry | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: tomato;">Technical issues always slow down the work</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;"> | ||
Actually this is a constant of working with technology, so not really a problem. More an | Actually this is a constant of working with technology, so not really a problem. More an | ||
epistemic thing. The borders of a project are its technical issues? Woa mr F. this is so | epistemic thing. The borders of a project are its technical issues? Woa mr F. this is so | ||
dryyy have a break pls | dryyy have a break pls | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li class="pro" style=" | <li class="pro" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: springgreen;">Technical issues: prompt new perspective on how to do things</li> | ||
<li class="cons" style=" | <li class="cons" style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;border-color: tomato;"> | ||
Setting up the infrastructure for the special issue at the end required a lot of time | Setting up the infrastructure for the special issue at the end required a lot of time | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">I would have preferred to focus more on the actual contents</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;">Because it is true that we worked with the politics of access to our materials etc</li> | ||
<li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: | <li style="display: inline-block;padding: 2ch;border-radius: 50px;border: 20px solid #cef;"> | ||
But at the end the most of materials were left out ah ah and this is a pity because they | But at the end the most of materials were left out ah ah and this is a pity because they | ||
were super intresting things | were super intresting things | ||
</li> | </li> | ||
</ul> | </ul> | ||
Revision as of 18:15, 24 December 2021
- WORK IN PROJESS
- Super nice project.
- I like how we take care of each other, it is something new for me in the context of a collective project.
- The attention to the group's pace was something really precious.
- The exchange of knowledge
- Self organized workshops, something we should do more and regularly!
- Developing software that suits us
- Check in moments
- A lot of meetings
- A lot of meetings
- Communication is difficult.
- We should explore more the idea of a shared glossary
- Even if misunderstandings are nice sometimes and lead to unexpected outcomes
- Self directed project: i like it, but at some point difficult
- I mean like in the real world
- Cristina: helped a lot during decision making
- Cristina: super high quality contents and approaches
- πΉ & πΊ: constantly raising the level.
- πΉ & πΊ: Continously questioning industry' standards
- πΉ & πΊ: We arrived with some grazy ideas and they replied with something even grazier
- πΉ & πΊ: Super stimulating to prototype something and then they showed how to do the same thing but with a more horizontal, accessible and inclusive approach
- πΉ & πΊ: we need more prototyping hours, or organized differently. Once in a week is not really ideal. What about split in 2?
- Steve: nice writing exercises they were super helpful
- During the excercise for writing the manifesto I had my headphones on listening to ? and at some point I was super focused writing and I heard at the same time the music and the silence in the room. It was really an ecstatic moment.
- Not read enough tho, I was too much into exploring and doing things
- Reading session with Erica and Mitsa at the beginning. Was nice we should do it regularly
- Clara's lecture was my fav: thank you
- Angeliki and Wordmord were great
- Danny was intresting
- Simon was intresting but the timing of the lesson totaly wrong, really hard to focus right after lunch & the meeting
- Really liked the iterative process of developβshareβadapt things
- Even if sometimes it hurt
- the joy of digital DIY
- the pain of digital DIY
- Our API was something like an ecosystem: messy, exotic, vernacular
- And im really happy about it
- technology as a social and shared space
- I worked with the most of us
- But not with everyone
- The right idea landed 10 days late
- But it couldn't be otherwise I think
- Ideas arrive always at the right moment, what we could do while waiting it's just setup the environment
- Maybe it's easier to begin and adjust the direction meanwhile, rather than being stubborn on everything being clear and perfect from the start
- It's true that choosing a format at the beginning could be helpful, but at the same time the ideal medium for something could not be chosen in advance
- It's also true that constraining ourselves since the beginning it's stimulating
- And helps to focus
- I like how slowly we got all together to the idea of the API
- Sometimes I was afraid of pushing things to much!
- It was not easy to trust each other but really rewarding
- Trusting each other in the process of work is also a way to manage energies better
- I like to rely on others for things I'm really not good at
- But i found out is nice also for things I'm good at
- Because in the end the result feels more shared, and with plural voices
- Sharing expertise
- Visual Identity outcomes were not really my thing at the beginning and I was a bit panicking, because I'm super sensible and conditioned by visual outcomes.
- But at the end I got to like the direction and I was super happy with the result.
- Even if I'm still not really sure about the text indent, doesn't it feel a bit messy in the website?
- We aimed super high
- But there were moments in which i felt to slow down everyone because of technical issues. Sorry
- Technical issues always slow down the work
- Actually this is a constant of working with technology, so not really a problem. More an epistemic thing. The borders of a project are its technical issues? Woa mr F. this is so dryyy have a break pls
- Technical issues: prompt new perspective on how to do things
- Setting up the infrastructure for the special issue at the end required a lot of time
- I would have preferred to focus more on the actual contents
- Because it is true that we worked with the politics of access to our materials etc
- But at the end the most of materials were left out ah ah and this is a pity because they were super intresting things