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*free systems vs capitalism
*free systems vs capitalism
*language of political economy
*language of political economy


*relations and interconnections
*relations and interconnections


*both economies and networks are composed of relations
*both economies and networks are composed of relations
*relations in network define -> topology
*relations in network define -> topology
*relations in an economy define -> mode of production
*relations in an economy define -> mode of production


*star vs mesh network
*star vs mesh network


*communism vs capitalism
*communism vs capitalism
*capitalists love star networks | they hate mesh networks
*capitalists love star networks | they hate mesh networks


*the internet was not created by capitalists -> universities, NGOs, hobbyists and the military
*the internet was not created by capitalists -> universities, NGOs, hobbyists and the military


*capitalists created online services -> client-server systems, that rely on star networks
*capitalists created online services -> client-server systems, that rely on star networks
*and then stuff like email, usenet, IRC, etc. which depends on mesh topology
*and then stuff like email, usenet, IRC, etc. which depends on mesh topology


*communism loves a mesh network
*communism loves a mesh network


*eash ISP earns income independantly by being part of a common platform not owned by anyone
*eash ISP earns income independantly by being part of a common platform not owned by anyone


*1
 
1
*capitalists were not happy about the internet
*capitalists were not happy about the internet
*they just bought everything
*they just bought everything
*dot com boom
*dot com boom


*2
 
2
*communism must be driven from the network
*communism must be driven from the network
*web 2.0
*web 2.0
*the web is a client-server platform
*the web is a client-server platform


*criminalization of P2P
*criminalization of P2P
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*it is contraband. used by thieves and pirates
*it is contraband. used by thieves and pirates
*being engineered out of the internet
*being engineered out of the internet


*venture capitalism
*venture capitalism
*offering money against the future value of what they create
*offering money against the future value of what they create


*capital will not fund P2P
*capital will not fund P2P
*capitalism requires enclosure and kickbacks, it requires a star topology
*capitalism requires enclosure and kickbacks, it requires a star topology


*1.anti-copyright
 
1.anti-copyright
*copyright came at the same time as capitalism, a component of Bourgeois property
*copyright came at the same time as capitalism, a component of Bourgeois property


*2.copyleft: invasion of the bourgeoisie
 
2.copyleft: invasion of the bourgeoisie
*the right of the consumer to become a producer
*the right of the consumer to become a producer
*free software is wildly successful
*free software is wildly successful


*difference between 1 and 2 : 1 is fringe, anti movement - 2 is more about intellectual property, etc.
*difference between 1 and 2 : 1 is fringe, anti movement - 2 is more about intellectual property, etc.
*1 is not compatible with capitalism
*1 is not compatible with capitalism


*3. creative commons


3. creative commons
*boosted by the free software movement
*boosted by the free software movement
*the consumer is denied the right to become a producer
*the consumer is denied the right to become a producer


*copyfarleft : employs the non-commercial clause used by some creative commons licenses
*copyfarleft : employs the non-commercial clause used by some creative commons licenses

Latest revision as of 21:30, 16 February 2011

Dmytri Kleiner


  • Telekommunisten.net


  • free systems vs capitalism
  • language of political economy


  • relations and interconnections


  • both economies and networks are composed of relations
  • relations in network define -> topology
  • relations in an economy define -> mode of production


  • star vs mesh network


  • communism vs capitalism
  • capitalists love star networks | they hate mesh networks


  • the internet was not created by capitalists -> universities, NGOs, hobbyists and the military


  • capitalists created online services -> client-server systems, that rely on star networks
  • and then stuff like email, usenet, IRC, etc. which depends on mesh topology


  • communism loves a mesh network


  • eash ISP earns income independantly by being part of a common platform not owned by anyone


1

  • capitalists were not happy about the internet
  • they just bought everything
  • dot com boom


2

  • communism must be driven from the network
  • web 2.0
  • the web is a client-server platform


  • criminalization of P2P
  • the core innovation of the internet was P2P
  • it is contraband. used by thieves and pirates
  • being engineered out of the internet


  • venture capitalism
  • offering money against the future value of what they create


  • capital will not fund P2P
  • capitalism requires enclosure and kickbacks, it requires a star topology


1.anti-copyright

  • copyright came at the same time as capitalism, a component of Bourgeois property


2.copyleft: invasion of the bourgeoisie

  • the right of the consumer to become a producer
  • free software is wildly successful


  • difference between 1 and 2 : 1 is fringe, anti movement - 2 is more about intellectual property, etc.
  • 1 is not compatible with capitalism


3. creative commons

  • boosted by the free software movement
  • the consumer is denied the right to become a producer


  • copyfarleft : employs the non-commercial clause used by some creative commons licenses
  • but adds a limitation to the clause
  • free culture cannot exist without a free society
  • cultural workers must be self-organized and work towards a free society in solidarity with all workers