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Shot: get shirt from a hanger.
Shot: get shirt from a hanger.
=== feedback: group crit 15
=== feedback: group crit 1510 ===
"Comfortable with the space"
"Comfortable with the space"
Revision as of 10:55, 11 December 2019
- 1 graduation project proposal
- 2 homecoming
- 2.1 assessment 09.12
- 2.2 feedback: Jamie (showed extended coffee cut 11.12)
- 2.3 checklist
- 2.4 Den Haag
- 2.5 Antwerp
- 2.6 Derek's
- 2.7 Nijmegen
- 2.8 Rotterdam
- 2.9 calling mom
- 2.10 Papers, wallet, travel
- 3 homemaking
- 4 homecarrying
- 5 who is remembering
- 6 previously
graduation project proposal
(older drafts: jujube/project-proposal-drafts)
D: Individual images are well-made.
S: Reticent people making films about reticent people. Film writing is cruder than prose.
B: Trying out places to live.
S: A woman makes a cup of coffee v. A woman goes to different apartments and makes a cup of coffee everywhere she goes.
I: Are you thinking of incorporating your writing? (me: no. not with text, not with voiceovers.)
S: If you want to discipline yourself that way, then think of how to tell the story as a storyteller. A useful exercise: turn the story of falling into the river in to a shot list.
Me: I am aware of the insulation of the current edit. The question is now: what is the story that I want to bring forth?
Me thinking: I should use the filmming of Youqing and Sören to shape the story. First think about the shape of the story thats shoots with Marieke and Tom have provided. Film the lemon scene. Film the travel scene. Write the script over christmas.
feedback: Jamie (showed extended coffee cut 11.12)
Jamie: There are a few moments of contact that pull the film together.
- thumb stroking lock
- coffee maker and cup coming together
- radio as contact from the outside world ("I think of the bullet in his chest.")
How can you accentuate these moments? By the sound of the clicks... Editing on clicks maybe.
The shots with laptop/book and essays, they seem a bit superfluous. They are also things from the outside, but what do they mean then? The gesture of reading is in the last shot.
But cutting it shorter and with more precision, the change of location (which did not come across clearly) may be more present.
Me: Good idea making this shorter and self-contained. I will make the 2-min version of this for the EYE.
A few people noticed the struggle with the lock and key in assessment. This struggle is interesting — it's about coming into contact with something for the first time... going back to the idea of contact. I want to reshoot these with a new lock/key.
- Home is shelter.
- Home is abundance.
- Home is safety.
- Home is free of judgement.
- Home is quiet.
- Home a collection of small, yet necessary activities.
- Home is a collection of objects.
I decided to rent an apartment for a few days in the Hague, to have a meaningful birthday and pass some time with intention.
I am a guest to an empty home full of another person's things. I am at her home. Is this the home I lost?
Use this opportunity to test: how to compose the everyday with shots?
- How does an object imbue meaning?
- shot length
- camera movement/focus change
- The rules I am developing for these shoots:
- Bring objects.
- Frame objects in a way that shows care and affection. Frame like it is a hug or a gentle touch.
- No face, but hands doing things.
- Domesticity, "quotidien"
feedback and thoughts
Barend: You mentioned showing small changes in close-up, the establishment of space might not be important
Me: Still gonna shoot a few wide shots. Just to see. Perhaps won't use them.
Barend: Are you going to let the viewer know if these objects are brought into the space? Or make it clear that these are other people's homes?
Me: Not sure. I could shoot some unveiling scenes soon. (but don't see it in the narrative rn.) I see it in the context of the documentary. It's another storyline. It's like a dream... Dream of home.
Me: I am seeing a future shot (done in the studio) of the objects isolated against a minimal backdrop. They exist, but they are not grounded.
+ Make yourself at home.
Wide shot: kitchen.
Shot: grind beans (fill the grinder, action, pour out the grounds into filter)
Shot: make coffee.
+ Roasted Romanesco and kale. Pumpkin seeds.
Shot: cut romanesco.
Shot: find jar of pumpkin seeds.
Shot: roast pumpkin seeds.
Shot: put the ingredients together (roasted romanesco on top of bed of kale, cut tomatoes, veggie balls; add seeds; drizzle dressing)
Shot: find fork in cutlery drawer.
Shot: bowl, hands, wine glass.
Shot: wash the dishes. -- take one is too generic - how to construct a more intimate close-up.
Shot: put the dishes back to the shelf.
Shot: prepare needle and thread.
Shot: hang raincoat.
Shot: get shirt from a hanger.
feedback: group crit 15.10
"Comfortable with the space"
"The coffee scene edit conveys the changing of geography"
"They are much more about objects (and also perceived through the quietness)"
"Finding home in oneself -- but not much is shown about the body" -- Response: I have a strong interest in my hands. It is with my hands that I do. Doing seems very important to me, and the repetition that comes with it.
This seems like an opening. Keep making them. ("Yes, these are among my favorite footage.")
Give context to "space in flux". More wide shots. Objects in particular place, then the space shifts. Images of opening the door. Images of packing.
Expand the ritual. E.g. bubbling blue water from above.
No need to force this into the other stories, which by all means keep making.
- continue these acts, esp. regarding coffee - toothbrush/earrings - stone
- use checklist from above to develop the shots
- make bread in dutch oven
- plug in the charger!
- toothbrush scene
- where did your bikes go?
actually taken place
- the smell of lemons
- preparing avacado for lunch (toast)
- the SF sky (clear and purple and wavy with air)
+ light in living room
+ light in entry
+ taking off shoes
+ writing at the desk
+ writing close-up
+ pouring a glass of wine
+ taking apple from the bowl + frame plate, knife, napkin + cut and core + get seeds, wrap in napkin
+ typing at the table with coffee
+ gazing into the garden
+ unpacking in living room, laying out objects, changing clothes?
+ medium shot ~50mm: key opening the door
+ wide shot ~30mm: key opening the door with backpack visible
+ add key to keychain
+ wide shot: key on the table, door closing behind
- packing (modeled for Nijmegen)
- making lemon tart
-- pie book
-- from grocery bag: lemons, eggs, sugar, butter
-- food processor
-- dough: mixing butter in with forks in a large bowl, rolling (wine bottle?), crimpling
-- filling: washing the lemon, cutting
-- pan in
-- eating with housemates
I want to discuss where I am, how I am feeling and the possible emancipation through love.
- record - speaker phone
- frame the phone
Papers, wallet, travel
- driver's license
- resident permit
- packing the H/H bag with pajamas, tripod, coffee pots
- packing the yellow bag with cameras
- check cards and batteries
- clean lenses
LOCATION: fabric station, Bree
discovery of: - journal from Leah - this New Life (Dante) from Amelia - recipe books
Two characters: M & J.
What does M want?
- To get a haircut
What does J want?
- To be with company
- To confide <-- that's an action, why does she want to confide? <-- To feel okay by talking to another person
- [off screen]J opens door. J offers tea. [lv rm]M browses the books.
- [lv rm]M picks a book. Goes about noticing new things.
- J enters the living room with tea and snacks. M asks J about the book she has picked out.
ETC ETC ETC
- What is this film about? That will help you will the editing. ("It is a film about two women coming together and showing vulnerability.")
- The shot of the bangs evoke tactility. It changes the motions. The tea shot is a conventional, comfortable social distance.
- Start with the voice track, it is the script. The visuals are performance. Visuals are not necessarily real-time.
- The visuals are music, you can turn them up and down.
- Develop a grammar.
- Think carefully: how you reflect the ebbs and flows of small changes (through shots)
- You are constructing social interactions. There are different layers in a social interaction. Think about boundaries.
- What is your style? Currently there are inconsistency in the shots. The first shot is casual, almost as if you did on a phone, it establishes a distance between me and what I am watching. The shot through the door is voyeuristic.
- My observation is that you want to convey through highly composed shots.
- Think about the meaning of the image and set up your shot.
- Home/belonging is universal. It speaks to a lot of people.
- The haircut closeup has a lot of shadow in the beginning. The composition is so minimal that this becomes distracting.
Cem (in response to David's and Ine's comments)
- We can support the first shot with panning close-ups of the shelf.
- We shoot 4K and Premier can zoom as far as 200%. The first shot is way more zoomed in that seen in the rushes.
- Can probably use a mask for the shadows in the haircut scene? (Ask Barend tmrw)
My own (in response to the tutors)
- I stopped writing the literary prose where nothing happens. In plays actions are reflected in the dialogue. I know the motivation behind the lines. But when it comes to film (in the first year), it becomes telling. How can I make film that is not exposition?
- I did plan the wide shot first in the storyboard then in the shot list. It's been there all along. I recognize the significance. But somehow when it comes to the shot it's not conveying the meaning to you. There is a gap. What is this gap?
- In a sense the wide, establishing shots become b-roll and the close-ups become a-roll. I am not making the kind of conventional documentary (think portraitures from the learning period during Jullie: Jujube/ambacht#reading.2Fseeing). I am not setting up an interview and shooting the actions, objects as b material. The actions and objects ARE what carries the story.
Tom acquires new plants
- Sorry to hear about the plants, though keep some dead plants if you still have them... (RIP.) Will be fitting for the shots. Would you mind keeping one of those days free (24/25/26)? I was thinking that we can go to the nursery/garden/park (or equivalent) and then back to the house for potting/trimming/caring for the plants back in the house...We can have tea on the road or back home. Where do you get plants in SF and are there any park/botanical garden/florist-tea-house-combo that you like? I also see this image of you carrying the plants standing next to a giant sequoia.
- Sure! 26th is probably the most free-able. Sadly I’ve already trashed the tree skeletons, couldn’t bare to see them around all the time.
Shooting date: 26.10
24: catch-up, talk about film and life, etc. check out the living room. notice the stories.
25: interview (use audio later)
Think about interview questions. What I wonder:
- is home a place that makes you comfortable?
- what is your relationship with plants?
Shot brainstorm: POV of the plant
I wasn't able to shoot the scenes that I intended to.
Spent the first evening with Tom chatting about life and getting to know him more. Turns out his approaches to life are different from what I had imagined; his place was also different from what I had in mind. (Neither came across in the emails. I should not have assumed.)
Tom was feeling ill and I wasn't 100% comfortable to ask him to go to the plant shop. We ended up shooting footage in his apartment.
Talk with S&B
Me: I didn't get the footage that I wanted. How can I frame this better to Sören. I don't want to mess up filming his story. I see it as a significant one.
B: You haven't had time to develop across the images. Think about cutting across three scenes: myself coffee-making/Tom planting/Sören sewing
- as a director you need to create a grid for interaction. This framework is not unlike that of a therapist's office
- saying we are going to do this, this and this in the scene actually free people up; asking them to do/say something in general they'd feel lost at where to begin, or threatened and leave their guards up
- as a documentary maker you are creating the context of the questions: ask something specific to which they can respond, and in these responses they unpack\
- The biographical status of what you are making is not as important as the moments you are collecting. The characters become archetypes: plant boy, tentmaker, etc.
- Perhaps you are the one untying the money tree and sewing. (Are you collecting ways of making home?)
I want to use the audio from the conversations in London.
From the bones of lemon to Adam and Eve.
I was able to have these conversations because I was in an extremely comfortable place: a nice kitchen/living room (physical space) and with Nuri (psychological space).
- Transcripts first -- this could be a publication -- but I am seeing shots happening in the photo/video studio as in an epic journey (dramatic lighting and all). I am seeing hands performing: showing lemon seeds and peeling apples.
cinematography and lighting: Sonia
cast: _____ as W1, _____ as W2
W1 has knowledge of Spanish, ideally a native speaker. (Marta?)
W2 likes poetry. (Myself?)
location: large photo studio (reserve)
time: likely week 44 (28/10)
W1: to juice a lemon W2: to finish a thought (finishes with horror)
CLOSE-UP OF HANDS. WOMAN 1 CUTS LEMON ON A CUTTING BOARD. WOMAN 2 DRINKS COFFEE FROM A CUP.
W1: I don't know why in Spanish these are not called seeds... they are called bones.
W1: You would say: los huesos... Weird, no?
CUT-TO. CLOSE-UP. WOMAN 1'S HAND, KNIFE GOING THROUGH LEMON A FEW TIMES.
W2: When you look at them they do look kind of bony... with a ridge even...
W1: Bone of lemon...
W2: The bone of lemon. (beat) Pablo Neruda was obsessed with it.
W1: With lemon?
W2: Which yellow bird fills its nest with lemon? (beat) He's obsessed with the color yellow.
CUT-TO. EXTREME CLOSE-UP. SEEDS OF LEMON IN THE FLESH.
CUT-TO. CLOSE-UP. WOMAN 1 SQUEEZES THE HALF LEMON ON THE JUICER.
CUT-TO. CLOSE-UP. WOMAN 1 POURS THE JUICE INTO A GLASS.
CUT-TO. EXTREME CLOSE-UP. A SEED LEFT IN THE JUICER.
W1: Look, a bone.
W2: Whoever called it the bone saw the human in the lemon.
CUT-TO. EXTREME CLOSE-UP. SEEDS ON AGAINST THE FLESH OF THE PALM. SOUND OF WATER POURING INTO GLASS.
CUT-TO. EXTREME CLOSE-UP. MOUTH DRINKING LEMON JUICE.
CUT-TO. CLOSE-UP. THE USED HALF LEMON.
- Are there a lot of apples trees, um, in Hooke, where Luis is?
- It's quite nice actually... No, I haven't seen plantations of apple trees
- chestnut tree, apple tree, um...
- What's this other one... Chestnut, yeah. A lot of berry, blackberries, wild berries,..., lemon, elderflower, just a lot of wild things combined
- Mm. That sounds like an English garden
- Uhmmm. English gardens are so beautiful, I realize, it's like very curated but also kind of wild, it's not the French trimmed super human work garden. It's really nice
- Yeah. I guess in Kew Gardens it will still be kind of planned
- Cause it's more greenhouse... And it's also royal
- (laughs) Why is everything royal so — maybe the term royal just means it's needs to be manicured... by other humans. It's kind of a metaphor for hu — for class. You have the humans who take care of the trees, like the gardener, is such a staple figure in, like, the royal
(tap water running)
- But the funny thing is, the history of fanciness, or royalness... is so weird... Too many things, to many ornaments
- Yeah I guess the period of Baroque... The Romantic Period
- The Romantic Period never ended... no?
- Yeah. I wonder when the Buckingham Palace was constructed. That will say a lot
- I don't know.
- Yeah, well... I am too — non-conformist tourist... We should just read the wikipedia don't
- Oh wait today's... Sunday at the Buckingham I think is the changing of guards
- I've never seen it couldn't be interesting
- Would, would it be on our way to the — to where Mo is?
- Not exactly, but no so far
- Yeah that could be a plan. Finally my third time in London maybe I should see something (laughs)
- The seeds...
- I don't know why in Spanish these are not called seeds they are called bones
- Yeah, you would say los huesos
- That's weird no?
- Interesting but when you look at it they do- do look kind of bony with like a ridge even
- ah yeah... bone of lemon
- The bone of lemon that's actually — ah no wonder pablo neruda is obsessed with it
- with lemon?
- He's obsessed with the color yellow...
- no wonder
- The bone of a lemon, wow
- Bone marrow of the lemon
- Cause yeah maybe... whoever came up with that term probably was thinking the human in the lemon. That's actually quite...nice
- Well apples. It's actually a fertility symbol. If you cut it
- Yes. I mean apple is like a loaded fruit with all its biblical meanings
- I know
- Yeah fertility
- Or awakening of sexual
- Interesting contradiction...no?
- The part about god and adam and eve... is that in the new testament? I actually don't know. Cause I don't know, is apple a common thing in the Middle East? I feel it's more common in the slightly northern places
- Yeah you are right. Actually... I don't know. My knowledge of the bible is less —
- Mine is also. I've only recently got — or I think, I started reading many things at the same time, so sometimes if a theological or biblical reference came up, I also — I'm more interested than I used to, but I still don't know much
- We can reuse this
- Yes. But yeah that's another let's maybe wikipedia what, Buckingham Palace?
- and movement -- ?
- remembering the guy yesterday
- (slurping noise)
- so good
- then apple, adam and eve, which chapter
- fertility or lust
- or both
- or both
- well at one time fertility and lust were probably linked very tightly, but then they came up with like contraception that's like a modern... yeah
- totally they are all like moral inventions
- yeah exactly. or moral inventions or accumulation
- uhmm (eats apple)
- okay so I guess we decided that... cause it's the ten and it's started. I feel kind of guilty but it's okay
(long silence as N checks her phone)
- it's very good
- I normally don't peel the apple, but I think it's nice to just have the apple. It tastes nice...no?
- no bitter
- have you ever tried to eat a peeled plum... Or like take away the skin?
- mmm maybe if it's a super ripe one
- it's so interesting it's like a flavor you don't normally disassociate from the peel, it feels a bit bitter
- the peel has like all the tartness, the other, the flesh is actually just super sweet
- super sweet so nice
- right before I came here I bought a box of plums and somehow these are these yellow Italian ones and
- they are very sweet these ones
- so yeah the center hhhh sweetness and the peel is like everything else. So you can very easily tell, yeah, dramatic
- mmm so tasty
1. Pitching my tent
LOCATION: Friesland NL?
LOCATION: Southern Sweden
body and language
the migration of mother tongue
A conversation carried out in two languages.
who is remembering
Follow the protagonist to places where she takes photography with a 35mm.
What does she want to remember?
Things of beauty and intrigue:
- winding staircases near Kino
- what are the moments you associate beauty with?
Things with friends -- iconic human connection?
- elaborate dinners
- picnic, smiles
- beach, water, kite
- photo studio
- focus? -- POV?
She goes to the darkroom.
Screen goes dark, sound of loading film
Developing (all steps)
When the images emerge:
They are blank.
End scene alternative:
She goes to a vast space.
It's just the camera and her now.
Shots of her taking off the camera.
Shots of her opening the camera.
Spend 10 thousand seconds create a scene.
Shoot with the heaviest equipment.
The CF card cannot be recognized in the camera.