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LEa: /* Conclusion */

2026-01-27T13:32:14Z

Conclusion

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	* https://pzwiki.wdka.nl/mediadesign/Exploring_our_file_systems#touring_around		* https://pzwiki.wdka.nl/mediadesign/Exploring_our_file_systems#touring_around
	* https://www.radicalnetworks.org/archives/2019/participants/melanie-hoff/		* https://www.radicalnetworks.org/archives/2019/participants/melanie-hoff/

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LEa: /* Conclusion */

2026-01-27T13:28:17Z

Conclusion

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	syncthing API explorations		syncthing API explorations

			playing around with "folder poetry":
			* https://pzwiki.wdka.nl/mediadesign/Exploring_our_file_systems#touring_around
			* https://www.radicalnetworks.org/archives/2019/participants/melanie-hoff/


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LEa at 13:26, 27 January 2026

2026-01-27T13:26:03Z

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	==== The house ====		==== The house ====

	We each added one folder to our Soulseek shares, but made it only available to buddies. Barbara made a complex folder structure that makes it possible to explore her desk, bookshelf and more.		We each added one folder to our Soulseek shares, but made it only available to buddies. [[User:Barbs\|Barbara]] made a complex folder structure that makes it possible to explore her desk, bookshelf and more.

	Soulseek logs who is looking at your profile, browsing your files, or downloads something from you. This makes the experience very interactive!		Soulseek logs who is looking at your profile, browsing your files, or downloads something from you. This makes the experience very interactive!
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	[[File:Screenshot 20260122 231838.png\|thumb\|First draft of the file garden]]		[[File:Screenshot 20260122 231838.png\|thumb\|First draft of the file garden]]

	Lea started cultivating files in the garden: music, drawings and photos, as well as html files with text styled to fit the setting. The html files she built are also available on sergio:		[[User:LEa\|Lea]] started cultivating files in the garden: music, drawings and photos, as well as html files with text styled to fit the setting. The html files she built are also available on sergio:

	📎 [https://hub.xpub.nl/sergio/lea/a-sign-at-the-entrance.html a-sign-at-the-entrance.html]		📎 [https://hub.xpub.nl/sergio/lea/a-sign-at-the-entrance.html a-sign-at-the-entrance.html]
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	📎 [https://hub.xpub.nl/sergio/lea/a-book.html a-book.html]		📎 [https://hub.xpub.nl/sergio/lea/a-book.html a-book.html]

	Sibyl later added a folder with a pdf of the book that she is currently reading, and instructions for knitting and cooking. She also shared movies, which lead to '''big''' folder sizes (that take quite some time to sync).		[[User:Sibyl\|Sibyl]] later added a folder with a pdf of the book that she is currently reading, and instructions for knitting and cooking. She also shared movies, which lead to '''big''' folder sizes (that take quite some time to sync).

	[[File:Screenshot 20260127 141155.png\|thumb\|Sibyl's cooking: We could have a picnic in the garden!]]		[[File:Screenshot 20260127 141155.png\|thumb\|Sibyl's cooking: We could have a picnic in the garden!]]

LEa: /* The garden */

2026-01-27T13:25:05Z

The garden

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	==== The garden ====		==== The garden ====

	~~Lea started cultivating files in~~ the garden~~: music, drawings and photos, as well as html files with text styled to fit the setting.~~		[[File:Screenshot 20260122 231838.png\|thumb\|First draft of the file garden]]

	~~[[File~~:~~Screenshot 20260122 231838~~.~~png\|thumb\|First draft of the file garden]]~~		Lea started cultivating files in the garden: music, drawings and photos, as well as html files with text styled to fit the setting. The html files she built are also available on sergio:

	📎 [https://hub.xpub.nl/sergio/lea/a-sign-at-the-entrance.html a-sign-at-the-entrance.html]		📎 [https://hub.xpub.nl/sergio/lea/a-sign-at-the-entrance.html a-sign-at-the-entrance.html]
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	📎 [https://hub.xpub.nl/sergio/lea/a-book.html a-book.html]		📎 [https://hub.xpub.nl/sergio/lea/a-book.html a-book.html]

	Sibyl later added a folder with ~~books, movies~~, and instructions for knitting and cooking.		Sibyl later added a folder with a pdf of the book that she is currently reading, and instructions for knitting and cooking. She also shared movies, which lead to '''big''' folder sizes (that take quite some time to sync).

	[[File:Screenshot 20260127 141155.png\|thumb\|Sibyl's cooking: We could have a picnic in the garden!]]		[[File:Screenshot 20260127 141155.png\|thumb\|Sibyl's cooking: We could have a picnic in the garden!]]


	==== Conclusion ====		==== Conclusion ====

LEa at 13:17, 27 January 2026

2026-01-27T13:17:41Z

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	Lea started cultivating files in the garden: music, drawings and photos, as well as html files with text styled to fit the setting.		Lea started cultivating files in the garden: music, drawings and photos, as well as html files with text styled to fit the setting.

			[[File:Screenshot 20260122 231838.png\|thumb\|First draft of the file garden]]

	📎 [https://hub.xpub.nl/sergio/lea/a-sign-at-the-entrance.html a-sign-at-the-entrance.html]		📎 [https://hub.xpub.nl/sergio/lea/a-sign-at-the-entrance.html a-sign-at-the-entrance.html]

	📎 [https://hub.xpub.nl/sergio/lea/a-book.html a-book.html]		📎 [https://hub.xpub.nl/sergio/lea/a-book.html a-book.html]

	~~[[File:Screenshot 20260122 231838.png\|thumb\|First draft of the file garden]]~~

	Sibyl later added a folder with books, movies, and instructions for knitting and cooking.		Sibyl later added a folder with books, movies, and instructions for knitting and cooking.
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	intimacy, being in close proximity (and available to discuss things at the same time) makes things easier		intimacy, being in close proximity (and available to discuss things at the same time) makes things easier

	risk of sharing private files (setting the wrong path in syncthing, sharing a folder with more devices than intended, or having files in a soulseek share that you forgot about)		risk of sharing private files (setting the wrong path in syncthing, sharing a folder with more devices than intended, or having files in a soulseek share that you forgot about)

	potential for text adventure games (folder structures and text files)		potential for text adventure games (folder structures and text files)

	potential for "multiplayer" games (soulseek logs, collective "gardening" in syncthing)		potential for "multiplayer" games (soulseek logs, collective "gardening" in syncthing)

	potential for a visual layer (with drawings, photos, html files)		potential for a visual layer (with drawings, photos, html files)

	syncthing API explorations		syncthing API explorations


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LEa at 13:16, 27 January 2026

2026-01-27T13:16:44Z

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	Sibyl later added a folder with books, movies, and instructions for knitting and cooking.		Sibyl later added a folder with books, movies, and instructions for knitting and cooking.

			[[File:Screenshot 20260127 141155.png\|thumb\|Sibyl's cooking: We could have a picnic in the garden!]]

LEa at 12:59, 27 January 2026

2026-01-27T12:59:29Z

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	For Syncthing, it is crucial to enable "Global Discovery", as only then it is possible to sync files over the internet. Otherwise, the sharing only works if all devices are on the same network. We added each other's laptops to our list of remote devices and shared a folder among us.		For Syncthing, it is crucial to enable "Global Discovery", as only then it is possible to sync files over the internet. Otherwise, the sharing only works if all devices are on the same network. We added each other's laptops to our list of remote devices and shared a folder among us.

			Careful: Not setting the correct path (e.g. missing a subfolder) can easily make more files available for syncing than were intended to share.

	[[File:Screenshot 20260122 233212.png\|thumb\|Syncthing shares]]		[[File:Screenshot 20260122 233212.png\|thumb\|Syncthing shares]]

	==== The house ====		==== The house ====

			We each added one folder to our Soulseek shares, but made it only available to buddies. Barbara made a complex folder structure that makes it possible to explore her desk, bookshelf and more.

			Soulseek logs who is looking at your profile, browsing your files, or downloads something from you. This makes the experience very interactive!

	==== The garden ====		==== The garden ====
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	[[File:Screenshot 20260122 231838.png\|thumb\|First draft of the file garden]]		[[File:Screenshot 20260122 231838.png\|thumb\|First draft of the file garden]]

			Sibyl later added a folder with books, movies, and instructions for knitting and cooking.


			==== Conclusion ====

			intimacy, being in close proximity (and available to discuss things at the same time) makes things easier
			risk of sharing private files (setting the wrong path in syncthing, sharing a folder with more devices than intended, or having files in a soulseek share that you forgot about)
			potential for text adventure games (folder structures and text files)
			potential for "multiplayer" games (soulseek logs, collective "gardening" in syncthing)
			potential for a visual layer (with drawings, photos, html files)
			syncthing API explorations


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LEa at 22:40, 22 January 2026

2026-01-22T22:40:36Z

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	We can all find our profiles on Soulseek and add each other as buddies. What is not working at first is sharing files—the right port is not open. Using a VPN that allows port forwarding (e.g. airvpn), we can open it which then makes our shared files accessible for everybody.		We can all find our profiles on Soulseek and add each other as buddies. What is not working at first is sharing files—the right port is not open. Using a VPN that allows port forwarding (e.g. airvpn), we can open it which then makes our shared files accessible for everybody.

	Since all three of us are using a different OS, the configuration of the VPN ~~was~~ different as well. But after that ~~was~~ taken care of, we ~~were~~ able to share files with each other using Soulseek. It ~~was~~ very easy to add a folder that is only accessible to buddies.		Since all three of us are using a different OS, the configuration of the VPN is different as well. But after that is taken care of, we are able to share files with each other using Soulseek. It's very easy to add a folder that is only accessible to buddies.

	For Syncthing, it ~~was~~ crucial to enable "Global Discovery", as only then it is possible to sync files over the internet. Otherwise, the sharing only works if all devices are on the same network. We added each other's laptops to our list of remote devices and shared a folder among us.		For Syncthing, it is crucial to enable "Global Discovery", as only then it is possible to sync files over the internet. Otherwise, the sharing only works if all devices are on the same network. We added each other's laptops to our list of remote devices and shared a folder among us.

	[[File:Screenshot 20260122 233212.png\|thumb\|Syncthing shares]]		[[File:Screenshot 20260122 233212.png\|thumb\|Syncthing shares]]

LEa at 22:38, 22 January 2026

2026-01-22T22:38:01Z

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	==== How to implement? ====		==== How to implement? ====

			[[File:Screenshot 20260118 115128.png\|thumb\|Soulseek prompts to add buddies]]

	* We could use '''Soulseek''' and figure out how to only share files with a selected group of people. (Might possibly be easy with adding friends?) In this scenario, everyone has one personal environment that can be shared with others. They can browse, download, but not change anything.		* We could use '''Soulseek''' and figure out how to only share files with a selected group of people. (Might possibly be easy with adding friends?) In this scenario, everyone has one personal environment that can be shared with others. They can browse, download, but not change anything.

	~~[[File:Screenshot 20260118 115128.png\|thumb\|Soulseek prompts to add buddies]]~~

	* We could use '''Syncthing''', but not for syncing between personal devices, but between different people. This way, we could tend to a house (or ''garden''?) all together—everybody can add, move or remove files.		* We could use '''Syncthing''', but not for syncing between personal devices, but between different people. This way, we could tend to a house (or ''garden''?) all together—everybody can add, move or remove files.

LEa at 22:37, 22 January 2026

2026-01-22T22:37:19Z

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	* We could use '''Soulseek''' and figure out how to only share files with a selected group of people. (Might possibly be easy with adding friends?) In this scenario, everyone has one personal environment that can be shared with others. They can browse, download, but not change anything.		* We could use '''Soulseek''' and figure out how to only share files with a selected group of people. (Might possibly be easy with adding friends?) In this scenario, everyone has one personal environment that can be shared with others. They can browse, download, but not change anything.

	[[File:Screenshot 20260118 115128.png\|thumb]]		[[File:Screenshot 20260118 115128.png\|thumb\|Soulseek prompts to add buddies]]

	* We could use '''Syncthing''', but not for syncing between personal devices, but between different people. This way, we could tend to a house (or ''garden''?) all together—everybody can add, move or remove files.		* We could use '''Syncthing''', but not for syncing between personal devices, but between different people. This way, we could tend to a house (or ''garden''?) all together—everybody can add, move or remove files.

	==== Testing ====		==== Testing ====

			[[File:Screenshot 20260120 114609.png\|thumb\|No connection yet…]]

	We can all find our profiles on Soulseek and add each other as buddies. What is not working at first is sharing files—the right port is not open. Using a VPN that allows port forwarding (e.g. airvpn), we can open it which then makes our shared files accessible for everybody.		We can all find our profiles on Soulseek and add each other as buddies. What is not working at first is sharing files—the right port is not open. Using a VPN that allows port forwarding (e.g. airvpn), we can open it which then makes our shared files accessible for everybody.

	[[File:Screenshot ~~20260120 114609~~.png\|thumb]]		Since all three of us are using a different OS, the configuration of the VPN was different as well. But after that was taken care of, we were able to share files with each other using Soulseek. It was very easy to add a folder that is only accessible to buddies.

			For Syncthing, it was crucial to enable "Global Discovery", as only then it is possible to sync files over the internet. Otherwise, the sharing only works if all devices are on the same network. We added each other's laptops to our list of remote devices and shared a folder among us.

			[[File:Screenshot 20260122 233212.png\|thumb\|Syncthing shares]]

			==== The house ====

			==== The garden ====

			Lea started cultivating files in the garden: music, drawings and photos, as well as html files with text styled to fit the setting.

			📎 [https://hub.xpub.nl/sergio/lea/a-sign-at-the-entrance.html a-sign-at-the-entrance.html]

			📎 [https://hub.xpub.nl/sergio/lea/a-book.html a-book.html]

			[[File:Screenshot 20260122 231838.png\|thumb\|First draft of the file garden]]



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