Steve's notes on group discussion: Difference between revisions

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[Steve’s general notes from the discussion at end of session (very partial) 15-12-16:]

Kate: How do the writing and making relate to each other?

Dan: I have a clearer sense of the writing as an ongoing project- this has provided a stability…

Angelica: I feel the opposite I feel I need to sit down and write on a regular basis.

Anni: In my making I feel it’s more OK to be unclear about [the underlying themes of the work] […] there is a different relation with writing […] Dan: I always think you have strong themes.

Kate: This may relate to Anni’s chosen form... the speech

Tor: I find the making and writing are intertwined; I feel it’s been helpful for the making, there is a different materiality to text and objects. The time and pressure on the text [in the context of the course] is very helpful.

Eo: have been trying to write about making, the diary as a framework for allowing other things to enter...

Tor: Ashby - words, fire and paper… I discussed with Will [Holder] when these rhythms feed back through each other, destroy and form each other… [the process is] very interesting and very frustrating.

Ash: the difference in volume, I expect to do many more words than eight thousand; with artwork I can’t visualize this in the same way. It takes doing it to do something good with writing.

[…]

Eo: I find writing is less physical, I find this less rewarding; printing it out helps…

Dan: making posters and playing with type can help also…

Eo: I noticed it is difficult for people to answer the question about who we are addressing.

[…] On the future

Kate outlines stages one goes through during the process of writing, including the difference between:

Structural edit = looking at text as a material with a volume… vital part in the making and

Line edit = Sentence by sentence, asking what does each sentence do? Is the text telling me what I want it to? This is good to do with someone else…

[Steve stops taking notes here]

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-General notes:
+[Steve’s general notes from the discussion at end of session (very partial) 15-12-16:]
-How are the writing and making relating to eachother.
+Kate: How do the writing and making relate to each other?
 Dan: I have a clearer sense of the writing as an ongoing project- this has provided a stability…
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 Angelica: I feel the opposite I feel I need to sit down and write on a regular basis.
-Anni: In my making I feel it’s more OK to be unclear about… there is a different relation with writing… we were talking about mixing…
+Anni: In my making I feel it’s more OK to be unclear about [the underlying themes of the work] […] there is a different relation with writing […]
+Dan: I always think you have strong themes.
+Kate: This may relate to Anni’s chosen form... the speech
+Tor: I find the making and writing are intertwined; I feel it’s been helpful for the making, there is a different materiality to text and objects. The time and pressure on the text [in the context of the course] is very helpful.
-Dan: I always think you have strong themes.
+Eo: have been trying to write about making, the diary as a framework for allowing other things to enter...
-Kate: this may relate to Anni’s chosen form... the speech
+Tor: Ashby - words, fire and paper… I discussed with Will [Holder] when these rhythms feed back through each other, destroy and form each other… [the process is] very interesting and very frustrating.
-Tor I find the making and writing are intertwined; I feel it’s been helpful for the making, there is a different materiality to text and objects. The time and pressure on the text is very helpful.
+Ash: the difference in volume, I expect to do many more words than eight thousand; with artwork I can’t visualize this in the same way. It takes doing it to do something good with writing.
-Eo: have been trying to write about making, the diary as a framework for allowing other things to entre it.
+[…]
-Tor: Ashby: words, fire and paper…when these rhythms feedback through each other, destroy and form each other… very interesting and very frustrating.
+Eo: I find writing is less physical, I find this less rewarding; printing it out helps…
-Ash: the difference in volume, I expect to do many more words; with art work I can’t visualize this. It takes doing it to do something good with writing
+Dan: making posters and playing with type can help also…
+Eo: I noticed it is difficult for people to answer the question about who we are addressing.
-E: how do you make the distinctions.
+[…]
+On the future
-Ash: have a different status for these things; how to know when something is finished.
+Kate outlines stages one goes through during the process of writing, including the difference between:
-Eo: writing is less physical, I find this less rewarding; printing it helps…
+Structural edit = looking at text as a material with a volume… vital part in the making and
-Dan: making posters and playing with type can help…
+Line edit = Sentence by sentence, asking what does each sentence do? Is the text telling me what I want it to?
+This is good to do with someone else…
-Eo: It is difficult for people to answer the question about who we are addressing.
+[Steve stops taking notes here]