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Anastasia:

Media: Bbc radio show from 1964 by Delia Derbyshire and B… Accounts of peoples dreams – male and female voices – soundscape using personal accounts which communicate on a universal level. How can we embrace these accounts through art? An intimate deep engagement with the world rather then “external” one. This is in relation to dreams (or rather a parallel reality) because already working with stories and using my own dreams – extracting narrative from it.

Video “Ely” by Italian artist Andrea Dojmi, 15 min The piece both fascinates and infuriates. Why? Perhaps because is too nostalgic – is nostalgia relevant? Can it become nostalgia for nostalgia? This video is quite similar to my work (or what I aim to). Dream-like logic – bouncing between tenses, changing speeds, keeping space for the viewer (to contemplate?) the gaps seem important – for the viewers thoughs? Precise descriptions but also poetic.

Text Fiction novel “Rings of Saturn” by Sebald The book is about a journey written in the first person. Personal accounts, encountering people, objects, spaces – these take the protagonist to different places and you can follow (as a reader), it jumps from one reality to another. *very skilled transitions Characters are from different time periods. Stories sometimes contradict. Nostalgia used as a navigating tool. The author also choses and formats visual elements with text. Touching on ‘heavy’ subjects in subtle ways.

Q Larisa: How do you look at your dreams and bring them into your work? Q Anastasia: How does dreamlogic and documentary footage compare in tone? Fictions? A: Factual description is underrated, perhaps they are not as much in opposition.


Larisa:

Media: Sound, piece composed for a radio show, 1964 people's accounts about dreams track about falling interest in using personal accounts - to let them communicate in a more universal level how one can embrace this types of accounts or personal experiences in an art practice

my motivation - conviction about the relevance of such practices

it might seem a bit difficult not looking on the outside world - deep engagement with the world outside - but not obvious We all have the info we want - superficial subjects (through media) My attitude is in oppose - concentrated on something close, direct access Interested in dreams Parallel reality that has ability to inform very often.

dreams: trying to work with stories/dreams -> using my dream - as a narrative in the video


Art:

italian artist, Andrea Dojmi, ELY

both infuries and like fascinated + but not sure if it's good delight, but is it nostalgic? -nostalgia - current? how relevant it is? what does it make - is it a tool? what kind of tool?

what if nostalgia for nostalgia's sake?

-picked bc: relevant - similar on how I think with video - appropriate and describe my practice

-fragmentary pieces, dream logic, bouncing between tenses

-also: space for the viewer

-image + narration + sound - assemble for space

-playing with the gaps

-book + video – poetic + documentary

-details of the spaces

-navigating in the dream-like logic


Book:



Rings of Saturn - W.G. Sebald

-fiction - personal accounts - a journey East England on the coastline - 1st person - encountering characters, buildings, objects, make him jump to another time tense

space, geographical, etc

-chapters loosely linked

-every chapter -

-hypnotizing

-following

-transported without knowing

-poetic

-different time periods

-stitching together different

-contradictory

-nostalgic and relevant

-nostalgia as a tool - able to navigate between places and tenses and stories

-fascinated by the book - images (from the author)

-playing with the images

-great storyteller

-super important subjects in a "light" way/subtle way

-an archeology


the questions: nostalgia

contemplation

gap - space


Q1: dreams brough in the work?

Short video - with my dreams


Q2: the poetic/dream logic against documentary (real) - tension between. Why can't be doc be poetic?

How is this logic different for you?

-doc can be poetic ->

-describing stuff - underestimate the descriptive mode (similar relation)


Q3:

About fiction?

the same level - as the other